How does this hold up?

Gordogg · #1 03-13-07, 05:04 AM

Friends hand in a thirty dollah sng...

PokerStars Game #8879413363: Tournament #45157614, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/03/13 - 04:59:58 (ET)
Table '45157614 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Thrash370 (6011 in chips)
Seat 5: mcb13100 (4557 in chips)
Seat 7: joosseus (1277 in chips)
Seat 8: gamblar55 (1655 in chips)
Thrash370: posts small blind 100
mcb13100: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
joosseus: raises 1077 to 1277 and is all-in
gamblar55: folds
Thrash370: folds
mcb13100: calls 1077
*** FLOP *** [9c 5h Qc]
*** TURN *** [9c 5h Qc] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [9c 5h Qc 4s] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mcb13100: shows [Jc Tc] (high card Queen)
joosseus: shows [Ad 7d] (high card Ace)
joosseus collected 2654 from pot
joosseus said, "gracias"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2654 | Rake 0
Board [9c 5h Qc 4s 3h]
Seat 1: Thrash370 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: mcb13100 (big blind) showed [Jc Tc] and lost with high card Queen
Seat 7: joosseus showed [Ad 7d] and won (2654) with high card Ace
Seat 8: gamblar55 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Dodoubled · #2 03-13-07, 07:40 AM

Which one was your friend?

bunny · #3 03-13-07, 10:40 AM

I am guessing he is referring to ~~joosseus~~ since his ace high card held up?

I reread it...scratch my first guess, I am (now) sure his friend was *mcb13100* and he is wondering(upset) as to how joos hand held up.

Reel Deal · #4 03-13-07, 11:00 AM

Yeah, b/c after the flop the guy had a gazillion outs. Any jack (3), any ten (3), any king (4), any 8 (4) and any club (7). That's 21 outs with 2 cards to come making mcb a 71% favorite after the flop.

Talking Poker · #5 03-13-07, 12:59 PM

Regardless of who is friends with whom..... Dude A got short stacked and pushed in with an Ace UTG. Looks reasonable to me. Dude B called Dude A's all in with JTs. He was last to act and had to call 1077 to win a pot of 1377, giving him not exactly great odds.

If he felt like gambling, sure, gamble, I guess. And against Dude A's range, he's probably in pretty decent shape. I don't hate the call, but I don't love it either.

Gordogg · #6 03-14-07, 02:30 PM

I should've clarified. Joosseus is the friend I was referring to. Marky Mark, er, Reel Deal explained exactly what I was talking about. The A high held which was cool. It's not often you see somebody with 21outs twice completely miss. If I'm not mistaken I think mcb was more than 71% favorite on flop, closer to 82%, yes?

Reel Deal · #7 03-14-07, 02:58 PM

According to he was just under 71% after the flop.

Gordogg · #8 03-14-07, 03:40 PM

Yep. I was using the method of multiplying your outs by 4 when there are two cards to come w hich would be 84%. I know it's not an exact method but usually comes within 4% or so of the real odds. I wonder why there is such a big difference this time? Math wizards out there?

Talking Poker · #9 03-14-07, 04:16 PM

The Ace redraw if Hero hit one of his 6 pair outs, I assume.

Gordogg · #10 03-14-07, 07:32 PM

Yes that's it.