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Not sure how much feedback Im gunna get here since next to no one here actively plays live, but what the hell...
How would the following situations be handled? Situation 1: (actual situation) Flop is 4 handed. Player 1 Bets $100, Player 2 folds, Player 4 Calls out of turn, not seeing Player 3 is still in. Dealer instructs Player 4 that Player 3 has not acted yet and to take his call back. He does. Player 3 calls... Is Player 4's Call Binding, or does he have a full range of options (Fold Call or Raise) Situation 2: (hypothetical argument brought up at the table during the floor decision making) Same deal, except in this case Player 4 Raises to $300 out of turn instead of calling His bet is returned and now Player 3 Calls. Is the raise binding or does he get a full range of options (Fold Call Raise)? If the answer to situation 1 is different than situation 2 , please explain why
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I've been playing live LHE for a few months exclusively. Just too lazy to post much about it. Anyway:
#1) I don't believe player 4's out of turn call is binding here. If player 3 folded it would be AFAIK. But with player 3 calling, I think he's got full range of options in this situation. #2) Same
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I'm pretty sure these decisions depend on each casino and what rules they follow.
In general, I believe: 1) Call is binding. He/She can not raise or fold. The only way his action is changed is if player 3 raises...then player 4 has all the available options. 2) Same deal. Raise is binding unless player 3 raises. Then player 4 would full action available. I believe the floor would just tell player 3 to act...then tell all players of the floor ruling....to not give player 3 additional advantage. |
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1. I would say the call is binding. If player 3 calls or folds, player 4 can only call. If player 3 raises, player 4 can fold or call only.
2. Her I would say the same. The raise made by player 4 is binding and is the only move they can make unless player 3 raises. If player 3 raises, player 4 may call or fold (regardless of the size of the raise) post flop, all players have full range of options. (Made me think of this...)
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Actions made out of turn are not binding in any casino I've played in.
Player 4 has fall his options in both cases.
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"Poker" is not a living entity. It is incapable of "wanting" to be anything.
Besides, every venue already has written rules. Perhaps what you meant to say was, "Poker needs a central governing body." OTOH, it's not like all sports have one set of rules or governing body. Take golf. The USGA, PGA and R&A all have differences in some rules. Oh, one other thing. Poker is not a sport. "Sports" by definition require some form of complex physical motor skill. Poker does not (chip tricks don't count).
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IT has Roberts Rules, which essentially is
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Yes. That's what I interpreted to get to my (and Kurn's) answer to Zy's question. Now I will invoke the golden rule of talkingpoker. If you answer a question and Kurn agrees with your answer, then you are correct and the thread should be locked!
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I play alot live and its not binding either way. Some use it as a scare tactic .Its bullshit but done. My
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Wait, you can play poker in real life?
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I *think*:
-The situations are ruled the same. -Player 4's call (or raise) is binding if Player 3 folds (in other words, what he "thought" happened when he acted out of turn). If player 3 does anything but fold, I believe he has a full range of options. |
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Giving a natural-born bullshitter like me that much power, is clearly over the top.
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