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Old 11-22-05, 02:51 PM
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I am reposting a little article I wrote in my Blog. I think it is interesting and might inspire conversation from the people who agree and the people more inclined to gamble. Anyway.. I think it was interesting and hope it gets people thinking and discussing difficult tourney turning points.

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First off I am going to borrow part of an Article sent to me by Full Tilt. It is by Rafe Furst and it talks about playing AK s00ted. Please do not sue me, and if anyone wants me to take it down it is gone. If someone would like me to forward it to them just let me know.


"Recently, a player on Full Tilt Poker lamented that he'd gone broke with A-K in his last several tourneys, and he suspected that he was doing something wrong. A few questions revealed that he was getting knocked out fairly early in these tournaments when he put his A-K up against pocket pairs for all his chips. It's a familiar lament"

"So why is A-K considered such a great starting hand? Folding equity. Under the right conditions, you can increase your pot equity to well over 50% by getting your opponents to fold in situations where they shouldn't. Here's a scenario: Blinds are $200-$400 and Jen Harman (who has $12,000 in front of her) raises to $1,200 from middle position with pocket tens. You re-raise all-in for $6,000 with A-K from the button. It is difficult for Jen to call here because, even though she suspects you might have A-K, she knows you could also make that play with A-A, K-K, Q-Q or
J-J. "

"Here are three keys to getting the most out of A-K pre-flop:

1) Jam with A-K, but don't call all-in with it.

2) Raise enough when you have A-K to give your opponents a chance to fold.

3) Don't raise so much that the only hands that are willing to call you are the hands that have you dominated (A-A and K-K).
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Ok. So here is a situation I am in last night. I am ITM. I am about 100 players away from the good money. I have 9K in chips and see the Hilton sisters. The blinds are 600 so they do not bother me yet. I push and get called by the 20K big stack who has AKo. I think we both made a huge mistake and here is why. Like Rafe said, AK is a great DRAWING hand. It is not meant to call all in bets EXCEPT, in my opinion, against SMALL DESPERATE STACKS. Why risk 1/2 your stack and your tourney on a hand that your only going to win 50% of the time?

I must be glowing with pride because I played so fantastic, got all the chips in while I was ahead. HELL NO! Same thing applies. If I get called I am at best probably a 50% favorite. Why risk everything on that? Here is the good part. The grow up part. Why do I not trust that I can outplay the average player AFTER the flop? Joanne once said to me about a different move I made "Why act with incomplete information?". If I raise 1800 in that situation, get a caller, and the board falls Kxx (like it did) it is very easy to get away from, right? Obviously I open myself up to bluff steals. However if I GROW UP and TRUST MY PLAY post flop I remain in the tourney and give the Pocket Rockets a chance to come my way. Here is an even better situation. Let us say that the flop is all low cards. Now I can bet the pot. I have reduced AK's odds of sucking out on me by three cards. He has to be feeling nervous now as he did not hit anything and he only has two cards left to kill me with. Once it progresses beyond this point I obviously become pot committed and have to go to the river.. but I have given myself the most information, possibly gotten away from a bad flop, and could still make a ton of money without risking my entire tourney.

None of this applies if your are really short stacked, or by calling the All-in you are only going to lose a small amount of chips in my opinion. Those are different situations and I am talking about situations that REALLY effect your tourney either by knocking you out when you have enough chips left to play, or by cutting your stack in half when you are doing really well.

SO I will say it again, if you beleive you are a good player then do not be afraid to see a flop. Outplay your opponents there. Do not allow them to get a free flop, instead, make them pay every step of the way, and give yourself a chance to NOT be out-donkeyed. Every card you see gives you more information and allows you to make better decisions. It reduces your opponents odds or clarifies your situation. So GROW UP you donkeys and stop playing like fish.
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Old 11-24-05, 04:16 PM
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Early in a tourney AK should be made with a 100$ raise. If you get pushed all in I would consider folding and waiting for a made hand on the flop. Later in the game AK plays much stronger and should be pushed all in to take blinds or a heavy raise.
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Old 11-25-05, 01:30 AM
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exactly $100 every time ? no matter blinds, position, any of that ?
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Old 11-25-05, 03:53 PM
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you need to put your foot down raise it up as much as you need to. dont let those crap cards hit three of a kind or a sraight you need to be agressive hard.
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Old 11-25-05, 04:04 PM
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yeh i agree also, Ax is a stong hand early on so is A and any face card, u def need to be agressive, raise n re-raise and if u get called and the flops ugly well u can always rebuy, and if u take the guy down then u will be able to steal blinds again and again cos the rest of the table wont match u unless they have a face pair in the pocket
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Old 11-25-05, 04:32 PM
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Did I mention this was an MTT! No REBUY!!! Makes a huge difference.
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Old 11-25-05, 04:35 PM
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oooooooops
sorry mate should of read the post properly before diving in
ok my point is valid up untill the rebuy bit then!

ps what the hell are the hilton sisters?
ur US slang for card names is confusing enlighten me please

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Old 11-25-05, 04:44 PM
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Hilton Sister = QQ.
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Old 11-25-05, 04:46 PM
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haha great name
i was thinking hmmm theres aint no paris n nikki card heh
btw i wanna stop this debate before it starts
nikki is hotter
but rick soloman is one lucky sob!
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Old 11-25-05, 05:43 PM
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a lucky slob is just to say the least
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