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11-25-04, 08:43 PM
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I like Raymer. He's a good guy, very polite, very humble, and a great poker player (I like his style a lot)... you couldn't ask for more from a champion.
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11-26-04, 01:52 PM
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Snap.
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11-26-04, 04:59 PM
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i appreciate raymer's good manners, but his glasses are unbelievably obnoxious... he played well through the tournament, but he really screwed some people over where he should have gone broke... like against matusow. outside of poker, id like raymer more cuz hes a nice guy. but matusow was a much better player than him, and he lost an important hand against him because raymer hit his draw. raymer is not nearly good enough to make the call matusow did on him, so i respect matusow much more than raymer at the poker table.
and yeah he did get lucky in a LOT of coin flips... which is annoying, because he would force people with small pairs into coinflip situations when raymer had AK or AQ, and he would always win the coinflip. this was completely justifiable later in the tournament when he had a giant chiplead over other people, but it just seems like he got lucky in a few coinflip hands to get the chiplead, then the rest of the tournament was idiot-proof. just my opinion... i tend to hate people that a lot of other people love, dont get offended by my comments plz. -jB Last edited by johnbaker; 11-26-04 at 05:05 PM. |
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11-26-04, 07:01 PM
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Matusow blew up and it was a matter of time before someone took his stack. Thats a fact all the table noted when he busted out to raymer. Matusow aint a great player, never see him get far on TV tournys. He talks a really good game but that type of poker player is justing getting outplayed now by internet players that dont give a fuk when some pro tries to intimidate them. The new breed will move all in and show little respect for semibluffs and bullying tactics. Matusow also lucked a few times before he met his match, remember one hand he made a bad call and got lucky with a 7 on the river to save his ass. |
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11-26-04, 07:46 PM
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A few things:
- Why are his glasses obnoxious, just because there is a reflective image? It's not an image of a girls tits or something someone would find offensive. Additionally, he even let Mattias try them on. He saw that people were reacting to them ... so he kept wearing them. - To win any big tournament, you have to win more than your fair share of coinflips. - Raymer might not have made the call that Matusow made, but Raymer plays aggressive poker. He's great to watch, in my opinion. - I don't LOVE Raymer. I don't know if anyone on here does...
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11-25-04, 11:12 PM
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Me too.
I agree w/ TP. Raymer is a good guy. For the reasons he stated, including the fact that I like his playing style as well. Very aggressive, which pays off so much in NL tournament play.
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11-25-04, 11:25 PM
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to be honest, i really dont see a reason why people shouldnt like raymer. i dont know him at all, except for the tv coverage, but he came off as a real professional when he played. you might disagree with his style, or dispute the legitimacy of his sunglasses, but i dont think that there is any criticism that you can make of him in regeards to his demeanor at the tables.
inn addition, he has been a valuable poster on rgp for a while. he actually adds something to the discussion. |
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11-26-04, 12:16 AM
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Hes a good guy. Played in the WSOP before. Got lucky a lot on his 50/50s. But, he just doesn't seem to bring much excitement to the table. So as you saw in the WSOP final table, they made it a 1 ep, because not much excitement.
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11-26-04, 11:22 AM
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That's not really the whole story though....you gotta realize it was the shortest final table time wise ever, since they started filming a 9 handed final table instead of 6 handed as they did for years. Plus, within 7 hands it went from 3 handed to over. The whole final table was over in like 4 hours if i recall correctly...it wasnt a marathon. Raymer's marketability or personality wasnt the reason the final table was only 1 episode, it was lack of play to work with.
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11-29-04, 03:32 PM
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Like Him
I like him. He was very pleasant, and even when he lost he was nice about it.
Some of the pro's need to take lessons from him. He did get VERY lucky but that is part of the game too. He was aggresive early on and was able to build a stack that was able to win the thing. I do hate his glasses! Jesus! I could not stand to watch them. They made me ill or something. I would have to bump him by "accident" and step on them when I went to "help" him pick them up. He's not as good of a figurehead as moneymaker was. I doubt he is going to be doing any speedo commercials, but he gets a thumbs up from me. |
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12-01-04, 11:03 PM
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I dont like the guy, as, say a friend, however I respect his unrelentless tournament aggresion.
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12-02-04, 10:59 PM
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Does anyone here really have a reason to dislike him? All you freerollers prolly do.....
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