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Fun with AA...
Funny thing is, I got them BOTH to put their chips in as pretty big dogs, and they BOTH sucked out on me.
Critique away. ----- FullTiltPoker Game #312717239: Table Arcata (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:17:39 ET - 2005/11/28 Seat 1: PotRooster ($170.40) Seat 2: JefferyRN ($150) Seat 3: ueatoutalot ($551.85) Seat 4: Rogue23 ($350) Seat 5: BluffingRizzo ($165.60) Seat 6: Sonny88 ($435) ueatoutalot posts the small blind of $2 Rogue23 has 5 seconds left to act Rogue23 posts the big blind of $4 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Rogue23 [As Ah] BluffingRizzo calls $4 Sonny88 calls $4 PotRooster has 15 seconds left to act PotRooster folds JefferyRN calls $4 ueatoutalot calls $2 Rogue23 raises to $24 BluffingRizzo calls $20 Sonny88 calls $20 JefferyRN folds ueatoutalot: 3 to 1 ueatoutalot calls $20 *** FLOP *** [8d Qd Js] ueatoutalot checks Rogue23 bets $95 ueatoutalot: one more BluffingRizzo raises to $141.60, and is all in ueatoutalot: come on Sonny88 has 15 seconds left to act Sonny88 calls $141.60 ueatoutalot folds Rogue23 calls $46.60 *** TURN *** [8d Qd Js] [Kc] Rogue23 bets $184.40, and is all in Sonny88 calls $184.40 Rogue23 shows [As Ah] BluffingRizzo shows [Tc Ac] Sonny88 shows [Kd 7d] *** RIVER *** [8d Qd Js Kc] [4d] Rogue23 shows a pair of Aces Sonny88 shows a flush, King high Sonny88 wins the side pot ($368.80) with a flush, King high BluffingRizzo shows a straight, Ace high Sonny88 wins the main pot ($521.80) with a flush, King high Rogue23: lol Rogue23 is sitting out BluffingRizzo is sitting out *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $893.60 Main pot $524.80. Side pot $368.80. | Rake $3 Board: [8d Qd Js Kc 4d] Seat 1: PotRooster didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: JefferyRN (button) folded before the Flop Seat 3: ueatoutalot (small blind) folded on the Flop Seat 4: Rogue23 (big blind) showed [As Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces Seat 5: BluffingRizzo showed [Tc Ac] and lost with a straight, Ace high Seat 6: Sonny88 showed [Kd 7d] and won ($890.60) with a flush, King high |
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So you raised 5x the big blind correct? I would try 12x the big blind next time.
Its hard to lay down aa after the flop. That is a bad beat,but aa is only a pair,You gotta make em pay to see that flop
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I agree with thrash here, a bigger raise can ensure that u dont get sucked out on as much, u might not win as much in the long run but u wont lose as much either....
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First: 24/4 = 6. Not 5.
Secondly, Yes, it's hard to "lay down" AA after the flop, but I was ahead when all the money went in. Typically, I don't think one wants to lay down the best hand in this situation, yes? I wasn't expecting K7s to call a 6x BB raise preflop... I understand you guys are saying it would have been better to bump it to 10x and pick up the blinds and calls, but I don't think I agree with that. MOST of the time, I take down a monster pot here by playing the hand like this. This just so happened to be one of the times when the gutshots and flush draws got there... |
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new guys here - dont look at results only - look at the play - if u look at it when the money went in - u will see he got Both ppl to put ALL their money in as underdogs- which means this play worked almost perfectly - the end result wasnt perfect- but the betting process and everything looks pretty flawless to me.
also- 12x BB with AA is just too much at anything above .05/.10 - I'm sure it works there but $2/4 is a diff. story also TP - u tryin out NL now or wut ?
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I play it now and then to mix things up. I was playing 15/30 (and a bit of 30/60) and getting my ass handed to me by the uberdonks - suckout after suckout after suckout (plus horribly missed flops cobmined with getting called down by 4th pair, etc).... When that happens, I like to take a break and switch it up and play a little NL, where I can pay to make them chase with their trash and where bluffs actually work. Short handed limit is still my best game, but I do ok at NL too. I finished this session right about even, so I did ok on the other table...
As for them putting all their money in as underdogs, the flush guy had reasonable odds (I think), but the guy who put all his money in with the double gutshot when I bet the pot on the flop - oh man..... he deserved to go broke. He hit his "outs" and still lost. |
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That's asinine. Really. Do you hear yourself Yogi?
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what
If you dont maximize what you will win then thats just silly. Why overbet and get people out when you are a big favorite? Ok so you get sucked out now and then so what when the money went in you were favorite, thats all you can do in poker is get your money in when you are the favorite if you happen to get sucked out on oh well thats poker. Nice hand TP bad results but well played. |
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Ok 6x the big blind sorry.Now my logic here again make them pay to see the flop.Also pocket pairs run, how many times that you have a poket pair and another players has them also. So you want that player paying to see that flop. and you suited cards folding. If I hold kq suited and you raise 5x the bb
I and a high percentage of players will call.So raise 12x and take the blinds and callers a win is a win. Now Tp if you tend to win with your strategy I would not change it
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that would be only aa and kk I limp on all others
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Zybomb did you actually win an event if so which one?
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You do realize that if you raise to 12x the BB with AA and KK only, everyone at your table knows exactly what your hole cards are, right?
You also realize this is a HUGE disadvantage at the poker table (which is why we usually play with our cards face down and not face up)? And lastly, you realize that this is 2005, and Zybomb won't be winning until 2006, yes? |
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