4.40 180man...hero stack to zero...this is bad (be prepared)

akajeff · #1 08-14-07, 10:25 AM

2 consecutive hands vs the same guy

PokerStars Game #11482231463: Tournament #58256477, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2007/08/14 - 10:18:41 (ET)
Table '58256477 6' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Slykie (12565 in chips)
Seat 3: 9|$JeFF$|9 (16155 in chips)
Seat 4: MikeBBBell (6050 in chips)
Seat 5: massa_re (5629 in chips)
Seat 6: Seeg1980 (5534 in chips)
Seat 8: raph3004 (10095 in chips)
Seat 9: mojoj0j0 (4150 in chips)
Slykie: posts the ante 25
9|$JeFF$|9: posts the ante 25
MikeBBBell: posts the ante 25
massa_re: posts the ante 25
Seeg1980: posts the ante 25
raph3004: posts the ante 25
mojoj0j0: posts the ante 25
Seeg1980: posts small blind 150
raph3004: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 9|$JeFF$|9 [Tc Td]
mojoj0j0: folds
Slykie: folds
9|$JeFF$|9: raises 600 to 900
MikeBBBell: folds
EVOwflip is connected
massa_re: calls 900
Seeg1980: calls 750
raph3004: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 5s 9d]
Seeg1980: bets 1500
EVOwflip said, "thank god im away from donk boy donking people left right and center"
9|$JeFF$|9: calls 1500
massa_re: folds
*** TURN *** [Th 5s 9d] [Qd]
Seeg1980: bets 3109 and is all-in
9|$JeFF$|9: calls 3109
*** RIVER *** [Th 5s 9d Qd] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Seeg1980: shows [Qc Js] (a straight, Nine to King)
9|$JeFF$|9: shows [Tc Td] (three of a kind, Tens)
Seeg1980 collected 12393 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 12393 | Rake 0
Board [Th 5s 9d Qd Kh]
Seat 1: Slykie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 9|$JeFF$|9 showed [Tc Td] and lost with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 4: MikeBBBell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: massa_re (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Seeg1980 (small blind) showed [Qc Js] and won (12393) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 8: raph3004 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: mojoj0j0 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #11482240888: Tournament #58256477, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2007/08/14 - 10:19:39 (ET)
Table '58256477 6' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Slykie (12540 in chips)
Seat 3: 9|$JeFF$|9 (10621 in chips)
Seat 4: MikeBBBell (6025 in chips)
Seat 5: massa_re (4704 in chips)
Seat 6: Seeg1980 (12393 in chips)
Seat 7: EVOwflip (3385 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 8: raph3004 (9770 in chips)
Seat 9: mojoj0j0 (4125 in chips)
Slykie: posts the ante 25
9|$JeFF$|9: posts the ante 25
MikeBBBell: posts the ante 25
massa_re: posts the ante 25
Seeg1980: posts the ante 25
raph3004: posts the ante 25
mojoj0j0: posts the ante 25
raph3004: posts small blind 150
mojoj0j0: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 9|$JeFF$|9 [Kd Ac]
Slykie: folds
9|$JeFF$|9 said, "lol"
massa_re said, "lucky river"
Slykie said, "no luck"
9|$JeFF$|9: raises 900 to 1200
MikeBBBell: folds
massa_re: folds
Seeg1980: calls 1200
raph3004: folds
mojoj0j0: folds
*** FLOP *** [3s Ks 6d]
9|$JeFF$|9: checks
Seeg1980: bets 3000
9|$JeFF$|9: raises 6396 to 9396 and is all-in
Seeg1980: calls 6396
*** TURN *** [3s Ks 6d] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [3s Ks 6d 6s] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
9|$JeFF$|9: shows [Kd Ac] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
Seeg1980: shows [Qd Kh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Seeg1980 collected 21817 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 21817 | Rake 0
Board [3s Ks 6d 6s Qs]
Seat 1: Slykie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 9|$JeFF$|9 showed [Kd Ac] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 4: MikeBBBell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: massa_re folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Seeg1980 (button) showed [Qd Kh] and won (21817) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 8: raph3004 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: mojoj0j0 (big blind) folded before Flop

akajeff · #2 08-14-07, 10:52 AM

GG to me.

what do u call this?

Reel Deal · #3 08-14-07, 10:56 AM

Standard suck outs?

P.S. Shove the flop hand #1

Wes · #4 08-14-07, 10:59 AM

Sucks op.

And completely disagree on shoving flop in hand one.

akajeff · #5 08-14-07, 11:17 AM

Thank-you Storm.

Why shove the flop of 1095 rainbow with TT with 1 player behind??

Makes no sense.
Played both hands perfect, just very very unlucky.

Reel Deal · #6 08-14-07, 11:39 AM

Perhaps it's just my opinion on tourney poker, but I'm happy to take this down on the flop with a RR.

eejit101 · #7 08-14-07, 11:44 AM

one reraise him all in or something, he will still call and u will still lose both.

thats called being dealt suckouts for having a big head thinking you play "perfect tourney poker"

Wes · #8 08-14-07, 12:56 PM

Usually when I flop the nuts I try to get maximum value from the hand, but since I don't play tournament poker I guess maximizing value doesn't apply.

Reel Deal · #9 08-14-07, 01:12 PM

I should have said I'm happy for him to also call the shove since we know we're ahead and there's a good chance one of them is calling a shove. What about those times we flat call and a brink hits the turn and villain shuts down? I don't know that a flat call gets the max value you're focused on BL.

In any event, there is something to be said for small ball in tourney poker... but I get your point about maximizing value, even though you seem to have difficulty making a point without being a sarcastic little twit.

Wes · #10 08-14-07, 01:51 PM

Just saying we ran into the one hand that is going to call a shove. All other hands that lead here, like a weak pair trying to "find out where it is", isn't going to put much more money into the pot at least on the flop. Plus, there is a player behind us so hopefully we'll try the action that will least discourage action from him.

Reel Deal · #11 08-14-07, 03:10 PM

Understood. I'm just think that maximizing value isn't the only factor in a tourney decision.