Today's FT Update...

[Robbie Robb]

That is me. Received funds. Thank you very much. If you need it tweaked at all, let me know!

[melioris]

nice work RR, they are pretty sweet.

your cards look quite nice on this .

[Talking Poker]

I assume Step #3 is only if I ever want to recover the stupid FT cards, which I never want to do, so I think I'll be skipping that step.

Nice work.

[Talking Poker]

Yes, they do look pretty sweet on that table. I think I still prefer the cards in OP more (I just prefer that font), but I'm using RR's anyway.

Oh, and shipping $5 too

[Robbie Robb]

Thank you! Received! I'll see if I can figure out which font it is that they use there. The one in the .PNG screenshot I'm pretty sure is the same font I'm using - Arial Rounded but then in the .SVG files it's using a different font.

One other thing - the lores cards are still the god-awful FT defaults. I'm working on that. As a test, I substituted those cards for the lores and nf_lores ones as well. It's...an odd effect. It doesn't work properly as it actually crops the cards BUT it's kinda neat the result. It's definitely better then what the defaults are, but still not right. Gonna try to fix those too and will get those posted as well. Also, have NO clue what the difference is between "nf_lores" and "lores"

[Robbie Robb]

One more for tonight.

Unzip and put this one in the NewTable\Common\Cards\card_backs folder, overwriting the one that's there. You guys'll like it. Trust me.

[melioris]

I'll check out the card backs later, probably tomorrow. As for the font discussion, I am partial to the tighter, smaller, and fancier fonts for my everyday life (cochin and Bodoni SvtyTwo ITC TT are my favs) but for the cards you want thick strokes and broad, simple lines rendering each character as blocky and square as possible. Arial Black is my earlier favorite.

[Robbie Robb]

Here's the latest update. It now includes the lores files.

I'll see about making my next card mod with Arial Black. Might try something a little different with the background for those ones.

[Talking Poker]

Is this to change the card backs? I'm gonna pass, if it is. I'm currently using the very bright ones from that 2p2 sample I linked to, and I love them. I can't see how you could possibly improve them, but post a screenshot and maybe you can convince me otherwise.

[Robbie Robb]

i think you'll like them. hopefully

[Talking Poker]

Heh, cool.

I like the idea of them (and used to have similar ones, with the logo on horizontally), but I prefer the bright cardbacks, so I never miss someone in a hand.

Right now, with a black table, the midnight background, and bright green card backs, it's would be hard to miss someone.

I know you can choose 4 card backs though... so maybe you could use 3 of the bright colored ones and use this as #4. ie, keep the green, yellow and red from the other card set, and replace blue with the TP backs.

[Talking Poker]

RR... I really am liking your cards and the font is growing on me.

The only very minor critique I have of them right now is the size of the letters/numbers (which I love) interferes with the suit in the background, especially at the top of the number.

Unlike mel, I like seeing the suits, but I wonder if this could be done in a more subtle way...? Like, maybe lose the background image and put the suit in the top, like how you have the small number, either next to it or below it or across from it - it would depends on how it looks in 4 card games like Omaha, I guess.

Just a thought.

Edit: Actually, I just noticed that the size of the 2d looks pretty good... the other numbers all appear larger?

[Talking Poker]

And finally (and this is totally minor), is there any way to change the awful looking cards show in the HH replayer? I'm guessing no, sine it's built into their flash.

Oh, and WTF are "lores" anyway? I installed your latest updates and didn't notice a difference anywhere.

[Robbie Robb]

I have NO CLUE what the lores folder is for. The nf_lores is when you shrink the window down to it's smallest sizes. I've got a post on 2+2 finding out.

As for the replayer, it IS possible. Some guy on 2+2 did it. The cards are embedded in the SWF so I just need to get my hands on a flash program to decompile, edit and recompile replayer.swf

For the suits, yeah, I can work something up. All the numbers ARE the same size but I just noticed that the diamond image is taller than the other suits.

I'm working on a new deck right now that is a dark gradient (using Arial Black Mel!) but I'll definitely do a new version of these fixing the suit in the background by either making it bigger or moving it up beside or below the pip. And yeah, I can definitely incorporate cardbacks into the next release with the bright backgrounds with a TP option as the 4th. I just quickly threw it together last night.

[melioris]

RR- don't bust your ass for the thick stroke font on a solid color background. The ones you made are just fine and, with the exception of A and 4, every number and letter is quite distinct and even the A-4 similarity is not that bad.

[Robbie Robb]

No worries Mel, I'm not busting my ass! :-) I have the hearts done with the Arial Black deck. The backgrounds are darker though. I'm also busy tweaking other aspects of the game now too - like I change the empty seat color - just to "make it my own" LOL

I've got a lot of spare time now and it's easier to work on these while sitting out in the backyard watching the kids instead of playing poker. Wireless is sometimes spotty out there.

Plus, while sitting here writing this, I think I came up with a way to make card mods almost cookie cutter in nature. Want this font on that background? No problem! A '10' instead of a 'T'? No Problem!

[Robbie Robb]

Okay...I think my "cookie cutter" method is going to work pretty good. If I'm using an existing font I can put together a full deck in about 20 minutes. If I need to do a whole new font it will take a bit longer. I must say, Adobe Illustrator rocks!!!

Here's the one I mentioned with Arial Black. It's not quite ready for release yet as I still need to do the lores (nf_lores) version of it and also a version that includes a suit image. I *think* for that one, I'll move the big number over to the right for each one and then put the suit below the pip. But I'll also try it to the right of the pip just to see what it looks like. This mod will also have the bright card backs as well as the TP one.

Oh, and I *know* I've stolen the idea for this deck from a 2+2 mod - just not sure who or when, but I've seen cards similar to this in the past. (with the light->dark gradient in the back ground)

[melioris]

those are fricking sweet RR, release them soon! One thing, I like the light to dark gradient, but can you make the dark not so dark on the bottom of the deck so that red is still red at the bottom, green is still green at the bottom, etc.

[Robbie Robb]

I'll see what I can work up. I may have to lighten up the top color a bit and then have a darker shade on the bottom. I'll keep playing around with them. Look for a release in a couple days!

[BlibbityBlabbity]

Add another color point to the gradient 3/4 of the way down (75% OR full black) and then back to 75% color at the bottom of the card?

[Robbie Robb]

I was thinking something along those very lines! I'm grinding out some SNGs tonight so I won't be working on it again until tomorrow. Got a few ideas I want to try and see how they work.

[Robbie Robb]

Aight (only good if said in the voice of The Count from Greg The Bunny), lemme know what you think. I should be able to get this out in card form later tonight with the lores version following tomorrow probably.

[melioris]

those cards make my pants feel funny.


wow, they are great! well done. Another $5 from me for sure! (don't spend it all in one place )


I assume the black 6 (spades?) is weird only because of the screen capture you used.....

[Robbie Robb]

Yeah, I've got the path highlighted for the 6 for some reason. It's not there in the card. I've also added a '10' to the deck as an option for those that don't like 'T'.

I'm in the process of exporting it now and then I have to do up the lores and cardbacks.

[Talking Poker]

Looking good.

I may actually like the less dark colors on the previous version better though. TBD.

And I need my version with suits! LOL. I think subtly under the small number is the place to go for those, but I'm sure you have it worked out already.