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10-19-04, 11:22 PM
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Multi-tabling?
Online I assume, yes?
It's a risky way to solve your problem, but have you considered multi-tabling? It certainly allows you to play more hands per hour. At the same time, you aren't going to get the same reads you would if you concentrated on earning the maximum from one table at a time. Personally, I rarely multitable, only if I'm looking to clear a bonus in a hurry. The other thing that helps is music, which is a constant for me. |
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10-19-04, 11:42 PM
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It is a very elementary way to solve your problem, and whatever you do don't tell anyone you are doing it because they will read you like a book, but set strict guidelines for yourself for each position at the table. Play ONLY certain cards from certain positions, and just as an example don't allow yourself to make a move unless you flop BETTER than top pair. The obvious downfall is that you have to have the will power to follow your own rules, and you miss out on some chances to take down pots; however, if you do this for about a month I think the habit of patience will set in. You may lose that month, but the long term benefits may be good for you. Hope you figure it out.
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10-19-04, 11:57 PM
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Home games
Interesting. I don't play home games often -- Seattle has plenty of card rooms for my B&M play. Home games are just with my buddies, and strictly for fun.
Anyone playing many home games? Do you have trouble taking them as seriously as casino/online play? |
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10-20-04, 12:13 AM
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My home games are a joke. I have me, my wife, brother in law, two or three buddies and sometimes their girlfriends. Everyone plays anything, and raising in general is frowned upon and could get you banned from the game, especially pre flop. No one can see the point if you haven't even seen the cards yet. Makes sense, right? My brother in law takes it ultra serious and keeps track of how many times he beats me because that is the only poker he ever plays. I just laugh, and when I get knocked out I go over to the computer and actually make some money. My buddies only will play for 5.00, so you might make 40 on a good night. Wow.
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10-20-04, 12:53 AM
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theres a few games i go to, but what i'm most worried about is the hard game. its a 10 dollar buy in with 10 people usually, and its a bunch of pretty skilled players. i usually finish 4th or so, but its always because i hit a wall.
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10-20-04, 12:54 AM
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hahah what kind of jackass home games do you guys play at? i play with a rotating group of about 30 guys at my school and we all take poker very seriously... if someone were to bitch about a check raise in my game the entire table would be gunning for them for the rest of the night
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10-20-04, 01:39 AM
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There is so much to concentrate on at a home game. WATCH the players. Look how they bet when they win a pot. Remember their actions and mannerisms. It's amazing.
Here's a story: In my group of friends, there is one other person who I actually respect. He is a good player, well-read, does well online, and is ferocious heads-up. Sitting blankly as I folded hand after hand, I picked up an interesting tell, which TO THIS DAY he still does. I told him that I got something good on him, and he claims he doesn't give anything away. It's incredible. And, it's fun when you pick something up like this.
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10-20-04, 01:40 AM
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These are the fish you want to swim with. Enjoy your time w/ them!
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10-20-04, 01:41 AM
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I wish I could play online like I do in the casino. It's unreal. I have so much confidence in my B/M game... when it comes to online play, things change. I find myself having to mulitable ring games and tournaments combined. It's odd though, because in the casino I have no problem sitting around.
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10-20-04, 02:49 AM
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What is it?
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10-20-04, 04:48 AM
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how to improve your patience
its like the old story of a new player falling in love with their "bad ace". A-2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9..........fold some of the hands that you think you would fold more than not. I usually only play hands i can raise with so i put fear in my opponents. That leads to looser play later. But just watch some of those hands that you will be folding and see just exactly how many you would have won. It might surprise you how much you can save. Another thing, this does not directly affect patience but you will see it when i tell you. The biggest mistake that i see players making, including myself a few months back, is play from the small blind. Yes you have good position but that does not mean that you should play everyhand from the SB position every round. Say you are playing 2/4 where blinds are 1/2. say you play 2hours at 75-80 hands per hour. We will say 150 hands. 8 handed. thats nearly 20$ you could save right there. That is 5 big bets if you call with even marginal hands. Just a thought to throw out there. Yea sure you will win a few from this position. But what about those hands when you are starting to really pick up on your opponents and you need a little more money to play as comfortable as you can? huh? just my 2c
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10-20-04, 12:53 PM
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When I play home games it's usually just for fun and the monetary thing is just to keep it interesting. There is usually beer going down and people are there to have fun!
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10-21-04, 12:10 PM
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Humpty has some good advice. Start with STRICT rules and then you can loosen the reigns as you need.
Here's an interesting story. Playing a 20 man NL tourney and there's about 15 of us left. Power goes out at work and I'm disconnected from the tourney for at least 15 minutes. Anyway, I come back, there's about 9 left and I win the tourney. Just lost my blinds during that time. Luckily, my stack was of average health and the blinds weren't too big yet, but it shows conservative play is good in the early parts of a game. |
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10-21-04, 02:04 PM
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Private message me, and I'll tell you. I don't want to post publicly, he might be reading! (He is invovled in the poker world - B/M and online.)
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10-22-04, 07:37 PM
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Imagine that there is a jair of jumper cables hanging from your ears. Every time you loose a pot on comes the juice. You will be much less likely to get involved with crap hands.
Also, you will forever shutter at the sight of a deck of cards, but you'll be patient. 
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10-23-04, 02:57 AM
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i would suggest that if your only leak is at home games, change your focus for them. sure, every time that you sit down at a poker table you want to win as much as possible, but the traditional home game is meant to have fun.
i generally play just as tight while i am playing in home games, so this isnt really as much of an issue for me, but when i do fold a hand, i usually find something to focus on. drinking a beer, watching the game on tv, talking to other players, etc. when i am in a b&m casino i am more focused that i am at home games, but it is just a completely diffirent environment and purpose for me. |
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01-12-06, 06:26 PM
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2 books the Tao of poker and the Zen of poker are 2 good books that give advice on keeping calm pretty good reads too. Does not delve into super pokerstrategy but tells how to keep calm and adapt to changing tables and circumstances. Very good reads once you have all your strategy books read
If your looking for books that lead away from exact hand strategys and "Do this here and do there there" I would recommend Sun TZU and the art of war for poker tournaments tao of poker zen of poker Makings of a poker play (matt matros) Beyond Tells I also liked Doyle Brunsons book (Wisdon of a Champion) ??? these are good books that give you a break from the meat and potatos's math and situational poker If you have the math down and are looking to ease your brain pick em up. |
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