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Old 12-08-04, 02:51 PM
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Default Clarification over EV charts

I have been recently studying EV charts and have been wondering 1. how accurate they are and 2. should i really not be playing low pocket pairs from early position and also be playing more suited aces and less regular aces with a random card besides a face. for ex. should i fold an a8o on or near the button?

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Old 12-08-04, 03:07 PM
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Without knowing your game or limit:


Aces with a random card under 9 are folded 99% of the time, with the one percent being in the small blind or with a chance to steal the blinds. You gotta get away from AX offsuit, especially if you're playing no limit.

I used to play any Ace suited in early position, but my stats after 10k hands show me I shouldn't play them early unless the off card is decent (6 or higher). You can play any AX suited if you have 5-6 or more in before you. You need to make sure that when the odds "let you hit big" that you're going to get paid.

In 2/4, I'm folding anything under 77 in early position. I like to play these the same way as those ace suited. With people in the pot so when I hit my 1 out of 8 and get a set, I'll get paid.

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The +EV charts are only a general guideline for play over all. You have to play your game and adjust to the table using your game. If you have a very loose table that's will pay you off if you're catch, it might be worth calling. If you have a tight table, you probably don't want to be playing stuff out of position unless it's strong. It all depends on your style and the table. Do what works for you.
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I play the 3/6 tables and like a little action. So I usually play the looser standards of SSHE. I think they work well because every poser and his mother is playing A3o. Jackasses! Basically I will play any pocket pair in EP, and against a raise if I have at least 1 other person calling besides the raiser. I also will play Ax S00ted in any position, and Kx S000ted in the SB/BB. I find that when I connect with my pocket pairs I can extract so much money out of the tables I am on that they work for me. I also always FOLD them on the flop if I miss unless they are the highest pair. No being sneaky and trying to catch that 3rd card. If I hit on the flop sweet. If not I can walk and try again later.
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Thanks for the response, I play strictly low limit no-limit, and it makes more sense to play the low pocket pairs from early position if I can see a flop and try to hit a set. The main thing I found surprising about this chart is how bad aces with a weak kicker play. I will definetly be playing less of these hands, even from late position, and more of suited aces.
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Wow, that is an interesting chart that i had never seen before. I think I'll study it for a while when I get home
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