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Old 10-22-04, 03:46 PM
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Ouch dude. You were getting the best of it. I thought he was raising for the free card, but I guess not.
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Old 10-22-04, 03:54 PM
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O8B is all about the nuts. People will often suck out in lower limit games. Swings are generally much higher. I find that you have to be even more selective with your starting hands because if you are playing a weak starting hand, chances are you are going to catch at least a piece of the pot and it could actually cost you a lot of money to catch a piece of the flop, because unless they are the nuts, you're in trouble. I will generally only play A2, A3 with good support, or any 3 wheel cards other than 345. Otherwise, I am usually folding unless I have 4 high cards over 9, AA, or A x suited with a pair.
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I like LHE, NLHE, and Stud H/L 8B.

I never thought I would play stud, but I came in contact w/ someone who is disgusting at Stud HL and he basically game me a free lesson. Then I played a Stars Stud HL freeroll: 6000 entrants... I busted out 26th.

It's a good game.
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i can see putting a raise in with position to try to get the free card, but you cant go crazy
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Old 10-23-04, 02:56 AM
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If I am reading this correctly, the betting wasn't capped by the other player at all.

Let's analyze:
Player A Checks
Player B bets ( =1 bet)
I Raise ( =2 bets)
Player A Folds ( = still 2 bets)
Player B Caps ( = 3 bets)

Now I'm not sure here, but When I play limit, It gets capped at 4 bets.
Did you actually cap it with the 4rth bet?

I also think that if the betting did indeed get capped on the flop, then although Player B was perhaps a tad aggressive, you should probably not have allowed a cap on the turn....
With that board and the re-raise, he either had a lower set, 2 pair or a flush draw.

Now, I am not saying I am 100% correct but here is what I would do and why.

I would raise and reraise until capped on the flop because it's cheap.

At the turn you would have to recognize the possiblity of a flush draw.
I would merely call the bet here.
Why? Limit the damage.
If he hits the flush on the river, it won't cost you as much.
If the third diamond hits on the river, then you can call his bet, or bet if he checks, and call his re-raise if there is one.
If he doesn't hit the flush, Then you can hope to heavens he lets you cap it again.... if not, you still take down a decent pot.

That is merely how I would have played that hand.

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Old 10-23-04, 04:12 AM
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no dude PLO is all about the nuts... the key to O8B is getting value out of your low hands. I'll talk a lot more about it when i write the article this weekend
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Old 10-23-04, 07:54 AM
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I hope that wasn't directed at me....
In this instance it certainly seems like this was a Limit Holdem Question....
I am responding to the original poster.

So if that was directed at me JohnBaker, go back, shake your head around a bit and re-read the original post.
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Old 10-23-04, 12:15 PM
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Hi James .
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i was responding to that guy u silly kid
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Old 10-23-04, 11:42 PM
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Stupid ChipFish!

Sorry, I just think the world revolves around me is all.
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Old 10-24-04, 10:10 PM
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capped = 4 bets i bet he raise I reraise he caps the flop and turn 4bets!
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Old 10-25-04, 12:26 AM
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That's not what you wrote
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Old 10-25-04, 10:51 AM
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Default Idiots to the left of me, retards on the right...here I am stuck in the middle

This entire post is for JohnBaker. The man is a chump.

That is a compliment. With your level of sanity, if my posts *were* making sense to you, I would be worried.

No one asked me nicely. "You gotta ask me nicely!" Ten points for who said that in what movie?

No flush was made on the turn. Jackass needs to work on his writing skills, but there is no excuse for your stupidity. Go re-read the original post. Ahhh, I love arguing with monkeys...not.

You said you hate limit holdem because you can't win at it. It is a pretty fair assumption that if you can't win at it, you don't know what you are talking about.

Well, while you may not have much of a clue, you certainly have class. At least you can always fall back on that.

I have a crazy idea! Would you like to play a friendly game of limit holdem? You claim you know what you are talking about - I say you have no clue.

Let's put it to the test - $1000 freezeout limit holdem heads-up tournament.

Why do I get the feeling you will have nothing to say to this?

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Old 10-25-04, 07:02 PM
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wow dude your posts dont even apply to the quotes you put up there... i'm not going to the bother to re-quote you, but look at this:



"That is a compliment. With your level of sanity, if my posts *were* making sense to you, I would be worried."

what are you, 5 years old? this is the stupidest thing ive seen you post (so far)

"No one asked me nicely. "You gotta ask me nicely!" Ten points for who said that in what movie?"

why would we ask you nicely, when you just came into this thread with hostility, telling us that we dont know what we're doing. no one likes you. go away.

"No flush was made on the turn. Jackass needs to work on his writing skills, but there is no excuse for your stupidity. Go re-read the original post. Ahhh, I love arguing with monkeys...not."

i said 'if i remember correctly'. chill out, i made a mistake, oh no.


"Well, while you may not have much of a clue, you certainly have class. At least you can always fall back on that."

...what?

"I have a crazy idea! Would you like to play a friendly game of limit holdem? You claim you know what you are talking about - I say you have no clue.

Let's put it to the test - $1000 freezeout limit holdem heads-up tournament.

Why do I get the feeling you will have nothing to say to this?"

allright, lets play. what site, what conditions, tell me everything first before i commit to this... also how about we do a NL freezeout instead of your wimpyass limit freezeout? what, youre afraid i might outplay you for all your money in one hand and you wont get the chance to outdraw me later? theres no way you're going to tell me that limit takes more skill than NL.



also from reading your other posts, ive figured this out; you're 23, you sit at home and play online low limits all day, and you (supposedly) are going to law school. From the way youve been acting on here, none of this is true. you probably ARE 23, you probably live at home with your parents, and you probably dropped out of community college to go pursue your aspirations to become a professional poker player. guess what? youre going to die alone! have fun with the rest of your bitter, meaningless life.

oh yeah, and before you come on here posting OK BITCH LETS PLAY WHERES YOUR $1000, I'm announcing now that i'm not responding to any more of your posts until you show proof to the public that you have $1000 to play with. giving dumbasses like you more attention than you deserve is why dumbasses like you exist.

I look forward to our match, because i know i'm going to break your entire bankroll when i win.

-jB


p.s., anyone else who's fed up with this guys bullshit please post here saying so. this guy needs to be told his idiotic ways arent welcome here.

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Old 10-26-04, 03:55 AM
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Excellent.

Ten points and 2 gold stars for you.

A Few Good Men is my all-time favourite movie.

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Old 10-26-04, 04:05 AM
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Lets rock and roll.

I play mainly at PartyPoker and ParadisePoker.

We need to put the money in escrow - I'm thinking TP Admin will agree to hold the $2000 for us.

We will sit down in a play money tournament table. Winner takes all.

Here is some proof that I will have no trouble putting up a lazy $1000 to take you down.
Transaction Time TransType Amount Trans# Cr/Dr Status
25-OCT-04 15:50 Cashout $1000.00 17000108 Db SUCCESS
30-SEP-04 21:45 Cashout $1000.00 15523624 Db SUCCESS
30-SEP-04 21:12 Deposit Bonus $100.00 15521724 Cr SUCCESS
29-SEP-04 21:31 PURCHASE $500.00 15367852 Cr SUCCESS
02-SEP-04 16:58 Cashout $1000.00 13776916 Db SUCCESS
31-JUL-04 03:45 Deposit Bonus $100.00 12059494 Cr SUCCESS
30-JUL-04 08:13 PURCHASE $500.00 12013255 Cr SUCCESS
29-JUL-04 06:12 Cashout $1000.00 11965750 Db SUCCESS
09-JUL-04 11:45 Cashout $3000.00 11075198 Db SUCCESS

Now where is your proof?

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you got him there, and i must say jb you do come off as an arrogant jerkoff sometimes
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Old 10-26-04, 07:48 AM
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Here's my "proof" LMAO!


Here is some proof that I will have no trouble putting up a lazy $1000000 to take you down.
Transaction Time TransType Amount Trans# Cr/Dr Status
25-OCT-04 15:50 Cashout $1000000.00 17000108 Db SUCCESS
30-SEP-04 21:45 Cashout $1000000.00 15523624 Db SUCCESS
30-SEP-04 21:12 Deposit Bonus $100.00 15521724 Cr SUCCESS
29-SEP-04 21:31 PURCHASE $500.00 15367852 Cr SUCCESS
02-SEP-04 16:58 Cashout $1000000.00 13776916 Db SUCCESS
31-JUL-04 03:45 Deposit Bonus $100.00 12059494 Cr SUCCESS
30-JUL-04 08:13 PURCHASE $500.00 12013255 Cr SUCCESS
29-JUL-04 06:12 Cashout $1000000.00 11965750 Db SUCCESS
09-JUL-04 11:45 Cashout $3000000.00 11075198 Db SUCCESS


Yes... I am that good!

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Old 10-26-04, 08:39 AM
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If I was winning that kind of money, I'd win every GT tourney by 2 shots over Sean Vernon.
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Old 10-26-04, 08:49 AM
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Old 10-26-04, 07:07 PM
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I hate to break this to you CF, but I'm broke on partypoker and I'm not going to play for $1000 of the $3000 ive been saving up to get a car (though i like this site and the admin, I dont know anyone here well enough yet to just send $1000 to, no matter what the reason). Your proof isnt really proof, as chipfish showed... anyone can just write whatever they want. I will play you heads up in any game if you want to do your stupid play money crap.... we post the results on here, to settle our little arguments once and for all.

before you start flaming this thread saying OH WHAT A PUSSY WOW I KNEW HE WOULDNT PLAY FOR $1000, lets get a couple things straight.

1) asking me to send $1000 to a guy ive never met, and expecting him to just put it in an escrow account no questions asked, is ridiculous; your terms arent realistic, so dont go posting that i 'backed down cuz im afraid to play you for 1000'. that isnt it at all; you simply gave me some VERY sketchy conditions to play under. why not play on another site that lets you do your own heads up freezeout, doesnt pokerstars do that? why not do it there for real money instead of having a go-between guy? I smell fish....

2) Why play for playmoney on partypoker.... like i said earlier, wouldnt it make more sense to play heads up on a site for real money.... couldnt you keep rebuying like 30 at a time without me noticing to suppliment your losses? if this seems a strange thing to anyone besides me, plz say so here...

If you can propose a better way for us to play besides "send the admin your money to hold, then we can play for play money (which you can reload free anytime), and have him send the winner the $2000", then tell me. your method of playing heads up isnt good enough for me to commit to. find a site that has a real money headsup freezeout option, and get back to me. otherwise youll have to settle for playing me for playmoney only.

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Old 10-26-04, 07:08 PM
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thx jimmy, i appreciate it.

no, he doesnt have me there. read what i posted asshole. also before you go taking his side, look at what he wrote to/about me before i started getting hostile.... i dont think i was an asshole to anyone besides CF, and it was for good reason.
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[quote=Jackass_man]I absolutely hate people who reraise with straight and flush draws,

I absolutely love a player that doesn't know how to handle agressive play!
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Old 10-26-04, 10:50 PM
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[quote=brokeagain]I know how to handle it i reraise and the 25% of the time you hit your draw i get pissed off and start threads!
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