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Old 12-01-05, 01:41 AM
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Default I'd a punched this dude in the face....

.....but I didn't want to bloody up my carpet.

At my home game tonight. Second best player in the game (good friend of mine) is to my left. One of the world's biggest donkeys is right behind him.

My buddy is a good postflop player, but he doesn't understand starting hand values. Meaning he overvalues weak paint a little too much. Not enough to make him suck though. Especially compared to the other dudes.

Anyway, no one is respecting position. I get a few limpers to me in the CO with AQ. I make a nice, standard raise. I get a call from my buddy and the donkey. I think he's the button and donkey is one of the blinds. The limpers fold.

Ace high flop and I bet the pot, which is pretty damn big at this point. Should also note I've got both outstacked and it's a tourney. My buddy goes in the think tank for a bit, but not too intense. I know him. I play him every week. He's got a weaker Ace. He's pot commited if he calls this flop and I'm going in on the turn if he does.

I also know his face when he's gonna call off half his stack on the flop. He's got the chips divided up in front of him and is literally just lifting his hand to put them in when DONKEY behind him says, "dude, I might call."

You shoulda seen the look on his face. He knew he was beat by someone at this point. I knew he knew. He knew, I knew, he knew. He thinks it over again and eventually folds.

The donkey almost immediately folds and is like man, I was thinking about calling (in the most sincere way) and flips up a gutshot draw. It was half his fucking stack. My buddy shows his now brilliant AJ laydown.

Without yelling (kids sleeping) I lit into the dude for the table talk. My buddy was red in the face and basically admitted he would've called if he hadn't said that.

It ends up three-handed at the end of the tourney and the donkey busts me when I'm stacked down and my buddy comes back and takes the whole thing. If he calls that flop, I guarantee I win that tourney.

Wow, you read that.

Goodnight.
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Old 12-01-05, 02:11 AM
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Wow. I read that.

Ouch.
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Old 12-01-05, 02:13 AM
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thats rough man, I would of felt same way. I hate when people react to hands but cant imagine someone actully saying something like that while hand is going on and someone is deciding what to do.
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Old 12-01-05, 11:18 AM
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Thats true some people in sit in goes call their hand after the flop when they folded preflop.........it pisses me off.
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Old 12-01-05, 12:53 PM
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That sucks that happened - but when stuff like that happens to me in the home games i play in, i look at is as sort of a trade-off.

I get the benefit of playing against some weaker players - but then i have to accept that they dont understand how things like the 'donkeys' table talk, folding out of position, string bets, banging on the table when 5,5,K comes after they folded preflop, etc. effects the game.

You just have to know that things like that are going to happen when you are playing a home game with no 'tournament director'.

Still annoying though
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I agree, although I am the tournament director so to speak.

Who's blind is it? What's the blind? How much did he bet? Who's turn is it? What do you mean my pocket 3s don't play on a 88KKA board?

The guys that play at my place are all about sharing hole cards (once someone folds). People will grab mucked cards and look back at them when the second deuce hits the turn, shit like that.

I didn't cuss him out, but I was pretty shitty with him. I ended up apologizing a few minutes later cause I could tell he was a little embarassed and felt bad. Also, wanted him to feel welcome back.
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You should politely address and explain each of these issues as they happen. My regular home game from about two years ago was a complete mess for the longest time. I would gradually make improvements in it week after week, and over time, it got pretty damn solid. IF you take the polite and "here's why" approach, people will understand and the game will change. Not only that, but in the future, they will look to you to make the tough decisions.
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