So Standard

[JDMcNugent7]

wow one day if im ever bored enough out of my mind and care about results more than decisions i should just post all the beats from a single day and maybe ppl will stop posting dumb little ones that happen ALL THE TIME in poker. seriously its math, ur Supposed to lose favorites a certain amount of the time.

[eejit101]

fold K8 os preflop?

and i do agree with JD on this one

[X-Longshot-X]

200 more into a 800 pot? and the guy behind is probably gonna call too....so im basically getting 5:1 on my money, and assuming i hit, im gonna get paid off big. He wont ever be able to put me on something like K8 either. Im 99% sure calling here is the right play but i could be wrong.

[Talking Poker]

But based on what you just wrote, in order for you to "hit," you are going to need to flop 2 pair or better, yes? Because you're folding easily on any K or 8 high flop, right?

Do you see how this doesn't add up?

Also, from your example: 800/200 = 4. Not 5.

[Zybomb]

Defending Longshot for a second here, he assumed 5:1 because the limper behind him was obviously calling this bet as well

[Talking Poker]

Well, he should have written that then.

[X-Longshot-X]

I did say that, right here....


Srry if that didnt work, idk how to do multiple quotes :-)

[Talking Poker]

Some people simply refuse to learn/accept this. I actually just tried explaining this the other day, yet here we are.

"Standard."

[drewjax]

He defended his big blind to a min. raise.

Got all the money in, and got sucked out on the river to get knocked out of a tourney. Thats what a bad beat is.

Why cant people just post something like.......
"tough break" or "that sucks, tough beat"
OR
dont post anything at all

Cut the kid some slack!

Haters

[melioris]

I was tempted to post something along these lines, but then I got thinking. This time longshot played it well and got beaten. Yes, this happens all the multiple times every day to me. But yes, it is a bad beat, and if he wants to post a standard bad beat in the "Bad Beat" section, shit what do I care? Isn't it the point of this section?

Instead of turning the bad beat section into a dick measuring contest of who has the worst beat or lost the most money to a bad beat, maybe we should turn this into a "You don't understand math if you post here more than once a month" section or better yet, get rid of this section entirely. But running the kid down, in this instance, seems a little spiteful to me.

[Zybomb]

well u played this hand correctly at least and learned not to min raise

[Reel Deal]

*golf clap*

[Talking Poker]

Not trying to be spiteful.

I guess for those of us who play a lot of hands, his "standard" beats (played right or wrong) are just that - standard. I'm sure there are a handful of us who have 5 or 10 beats worse than what he posts on a DAILY basis.

The reason this section exists is to keep this crap out of the poker sections. But sure, post away. I'll try to keep my comments to myself.

[GeoffM]

New pictoral thread ?

[X-Longshot-X]

Its not that im trying to show every bad beat that happens, but i dont play but one or two games a day, and when this is honestly the only way i have been losing lately it sucks. Its variance and i know it will even out in the long run but its still hard. The thing that i think is worse though is that it wont work out in the long run. Maybe i overthink these things, but i am NEVER putting my money in the spot that this guy did so i will never get the chance for it to even out. Its not really about all the bad beats but with the roll that i currently have and the run that i am on it is difficult to take blow after blow like this.

[Zybomb]

That isn't the point.

There point is you will win this a set % of the time in the long run -- so as long as you continue to get your money in in these situations, they will sway in your favor -- in fact Im willing to bet they are already in your favor -- you just dont remember the times when your hand holds up and you do remember the times that it doesnt bc they stick out more.


The fact that you usually wont get your money in bad is irrelivant... I generally dont get my $ in bad, so I don't give out a lot of bad beats (unless you consider calling a PFR with 97s and hitting two pair vs an overpair a bad beat, which I certaintly don't.... especially when they'll gladly put all the $ in on the flop )

Not giving out bad beats is different than having the best hand hold up as often as it's supposed to, and thats what will bring you into the +

[Reel Deal]

You've NEVER put your money in with top pair/second kicker on a board like that? Wow, and I thought I was a nit.

[JDMcNugent7]

mine wasnt a shot at longshot at all actually, my post is helpful i think.

[melioris]

reading it again, yeah I see your point. But can you see my point of who cares if he posts every 3-outer, even the ones that are supposed to happen?


I think this entire thread makes a compelling argument for deleting the "bad beat" section. Haven't you have advocated that in the past, JD?

[X-Longshot-X]

he advocated making it a beats brags and variance section rather than just bad beats

[JDMcNugent7]

ya i said change it to beats brags and variance. but wutever, i usually just never even read this thread so i dont care wut ppl post, but i do think mine might have been mean but helpful.