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- Learn the check/call (generally on the river) and use it often, dont lose bets by betting and then calling raises
This is fine as far as it goes, but NL players tend to check the river OOP way too much in limit games. In a tourney, you need to be a little more careful, but you need to value bet the river much more in limit than in NL. Worse hands call on the river far more often in limit than in NL. Also, and this may be too little too late, in a limit tournament (as opposed to a limit ring game) you almost never enter a pot preflop for one bet. If you're going to play, raise. Limit is fundamentally a much more aggressive game. A good way to look at what works in limit is to listen to what limit players say about making the transition to NL. One excellent limit player said his problem with NL is that he loses a lot of money with 1-pair hands. That alone tells you a lot about how to be successful at limit.
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These are really good points. If you are out of position and betting TPTK on the turn and only get called by one person that has position on you, unless a scary card hits the river (i.e. completing an obvious flush or straight) then i think you probably should fire again. Normally, if a player is strong they are going to raise you on the turn (this is limit and they need to get max value for their big hands too).
Also, in regards to Kurns point about raising - you can really take control of a hand raising -either preflop or on the flop (ESPECIALLY in the early stages). This is poker 101 - but if you have a draw heavy hand in late position and a lot of limpers, i like to raise here. You are building a pot for your draw, plus most of the time you will get a free card after the flop if you need it. Same on the flop - if you raise on the flop you can usually get yourself a free card if you need it. But, you have to be careful not to chase away yoru action. Say there are 6 people in the pot and you are the button. All check to the person to your right. If you raise here, you might get all the others to fold. Then you are heads-up with a draw. I would call here. But if SB comes out for a bet and all call, then i almost always raise my draw. I know in NL sometimes you have to be careful betting your draws since there is the chance you could get check-raised all-in and be forced to lie down your draw. Again - poker 101 - in Limit, you dont really have that worry so you can bet your draws hard. Okay - now forum - RIP ME APART! |
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I was actually suprised at the number of people who laid down their hands when I bet the river (I also used check/call). Many people chased draws in the river. I only did that twice, but the second time really hurt me.
I did the raising thing. Even one raise thined the field a little bit. It also was a good reminder (when faced with a raise) not to play those marginal hands. (not that I alsways listened).
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Thanks to all those who posted (even though I read some too late). Zybomb, your advice was particularly useful, and although I just made the money, I would not have made it that far without the guidance.
Thanks again everyone.
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