Donk Bet Raising Success Rate...

[melioris]

Is this the type of thing that is easy to do in Holdem Manager?

[lightfungus]

And shouldn't the donk bet situation be specified as the lead out bet OOP is less than a percentage of the pot? Like say 50%...or 40%? If someone leads out for >50% isn't this a completely different story than someone who leads out with less than 50%? Or did we take that into account already?

[Talking Poker]

If a guy leads into the PFRer (obviously OOP), that's a donk bet. Whether he leads out for a min bet or the entire pot will obviously effect if the PFRer chooses to raise or not, but once he does, it's being lumped in to these results.

Narrowing down the results based on the size of the donk bet as a percentage of the pot would definitely be interesting, but again, I don't know how to do that.

[de-coder]

I've figured out the alias issue and it's pretty simple actually.

change x.player_id to x.real_player_id and you're good to go.

[Wes]

Really easy, although you wouldn't have the l33tness because you don't know have to know how to do sql queries.

[de-coder]

to find the level you want try this

select * from game_level

that will give you all the levels you have in the DB and their game_level_id

then use

select x.game_id from game_players x join game_players y on x.game_id = y.game_id and y.fbet = 1 and y.praise != 1 and y.ffold = 1 join game z on x.game_id = z.game_id and z.game_level_id = game_level_id here where x.raised_first_pf = 1 and x.fraise = 1 and x.fcheck != 1 and x.real_player_id = player_id here

to those who actually appreciate my work - you're very welcome. This is such a fascinating topic. There's a lot of good stuff in there.

Here's a question:

how often is a limp - re-raise AA?

To be fair I'm not talking about pure limps, but people that call the current bet, get raised at some point behind them, and then re-reraise pre-flop.

Any guesses?

[Talking Poker]

Stats are fun.

This is a tricky one though, especially with the broad definition (maybe this should be a new thread - but I guess there's not too much to discuss with this one). I think the number is pretty high... how about 42%?

[lightfungus]

I'm doing a decent amount of SQL at work right now and would love to help out with this but I don't have the time right now. So I appreciate it de-coder. And work also blocks this site

[de-coder]

Keep in mind I'm not actually a sql guy - I'm just kindof flying by the seat of my pants and reading a lot of sql docs (I also asked a guy at work to point me in the right direction). If you have any suggestions as to how to do things better, or if you see any problems with it let me know.

There's more stuff in there too if we have any ideas for things we'd like to see (see above for 1 fun stat...).

[Wes]

Use it.

[de-coder]

No other guesses on this?

TP guessed 42% - anyone else?

[Reel Deal]

62%

[meanness]

Good thread, thanks for the work.

I don't have any data, but I'm sure my 5% guess was strongly influenced by the way I was running at the time, and not truly representative of the general trend. Thanks to this thread, I've been experimenting a lot more with raising the donk bettor.

On a drawy board, I'm starting to find more success - not with the initial fold, at $100NL anyway - but if the turn blanks and I fire again, I'm winning the pot consistently.

[Talking Poker]

Exactly.

Nice to know that not everyone finds this thread useless.