River Fold Getting 10:1 w/ a Set

[bigd007x]

i liked how u played it zybomb. i think u played it correct i have no idea why that guy chased his draw that hard. i think the turn bet is better if u push him all in but looking how he played the hand he wasnt going anywhere. sucks how chasers get rewarded like that tough luck but i think u played the hand great.

[Talking Poker]

The turn bet should have been an all in if for not other reason(s) than to:

-Make the guy make a bigger mistake if he decided to chase. Yes, he would have been more likely to fold, but it was a pretty huge pot already and I have to think you would have been happy to take it down. Mathematically, if he turned his cards face up and asked if you wanted him to call or not (if you have shoved), of course you should tell him to call... But in reality, if he folded right there, I doubt you'd be too pissed off about it. This is exactly why people "do business" in really big games.

-Not give yorself a chance - no matter how small - of folding the best hand for that last 10:1 bet on the river. That would be a HUGE mistake. I know it seems very obvious that we were beat here, but 10:1 is a LOT. Yeah, you can say you were 98% sure you were beat, but were you really? I doubt it. People bluff (even in retarded spots like this) more than 2% of the time. In fact, bluffing here would be correct if he thought he could get you to fold the best hand just 10% of the time! Think about it...

Hypothetical: Say you were getting 20:1 on the end (if his bet was half as much as it was)... Do you still fold?

(And yes, I realize that you would have shoved the turn if you had noticed his stack, Zy - This response was more for the people who agree with exactly how you played it)

[Zybomb]

I agree with this post entirely -- as for the 20:1 jesus, i dunno... i think especially against this opponent (who wouldnt be clever enough to bluff this) Im really good < 2% of the time... id probably just throw up on the table and see what happens