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Old 09-21-07, 03:42 AM
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wow, I'm surprised I never realized that was you when I watched that video. I hate the laydown but i understand the logic (while I still disagree with it there.)
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Old 09-21-07, 04:04 AM
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Care to expand on this?

Don't get me wrong, it wasn't an easy fold and it was really close for me. If he had more chips, it would have been easier for me to throw my hands away... less and I probably would have called (and FWIW, at the time, I thoguht he had a bit more than he did - I didn't ask for a count, and I should have).

This was a tough spot, so I decided to go with the "I'm playing great and don't need to take an unnecessary risk" logic. You're more of an "I have AK, so let's get it all in the middle" kind of guy, aren't you? I'm certainly not saying that's wrong, btw - just stating an observation.
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Old 09-21-07, 08:18 PM
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Only reason why I like the laydown there is that you were close to the bubble if I remember it right. So why flip at that point. You had a good amount of chips left.
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We were down to 11 players and had been in the money since the previous day (it paid over 100 spots, as I recall).

I have zero regrets about this fold. If this was a cash game or maybe much earlier in the tourney, sure, it's an easy call - but this was one spot (two technically) from a WSOP final table... and I had a decent stack.
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Old 09-22-07, 11:45 AM
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There are two reasons I hate the fold. Firstly, There are already chips in the pot. Secondly, Having the additional chips at that point in the tourney should give you a huge advantage as you should be able to use them as leverage to control the table and take a huge stack to the FT. You also eliminate a very good player from the competition and that has value as well. Not to mention I just dont fold AK in tournaments unless the situation is extreme. I believe in tournaments you have to attack and constantly push to gain chips.
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