party poker

[eddo31]

i wouldnt be that worried about it. party isnt there, but neither are pokerroom or pacific.

i think that there are a couple of different comissions that do the auditing, but i really think that it is all a scam. look at one of their news articles about golden palace. it seems to me that they essentially extorted charitable donations out of golden palace because of the streaker advertising that golden palace does. it doesnt seem to make sense to me.

i would feel pretty safe at any of the big sites, including party. they would have a serious shitstorm on their hands if they somehow started to have problems. i think that their 70k players could find somewhere else to play pretty quickly.

[omahilo]

I havent had problems with party and you shouldnt worry about it. Party is the biggest site and they wouldnt do anything to hurt that.

[Talking Poker]

You don't need to fear Party... Fear groups of players cheating you there, sure... but don't fear the site itself. It would be a TERRIBLE idea for them to run anything less than a clean game. They make WAY too much money by keeping things on the up and up.

[BrianSwa]

by players cheating you do you mean like them talking on AOL or the phone and trying to drive up pots there expecting to most likely win?

[eddo31]

there are different ways to do it, but basically they revolve around playing multiple hands in the same game. if they communicate by im or phone, that works perfectly.

there are different ways to collude as well. the obvious one is sandwiching one player by raising and re-raising around him. that is effective, but very obvious to someone that is paying attention. the more subtle way is freezing the action so that the un-knowing player does not get the correct odds on his drawing hands, and the colluders only play made hands. this way they lose the max, it isnt suspicious, and when they hit the draw they get paid the minimum for it.

i wouldnt really worry about this at the low limit tables. it really is a way to see monsters in the closet, when none are there. if you ever get the feelingthat a few of the players at the table know what each other have at all times, leave he table, and report it to party. i believe that they will check it out, and online there are very concrete ways to figure out if collusion i soccurring.

[junYUN]

to be honest i've colluded in online poker, so i wouldn't be surprised it there were a lot of people doing it. it's a good way to be profitable. i haven't done it in a while, but i'll tell you when i was a newbie it definatly helped me.

[junYUN]

by the way we didn't do it by phone or aim, we did it by one of the most advanced online colluding systems...it automatically posted what my colluding friend had to me, and posted my "outs" and the odds.