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03-01-05, 04:05 AM
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Definately a bad beat because of the odds you were after the flop... but thinking about the way this guy played it, it may not be as bad as it appears considering he didnt know that you held AA. First of all, this is why I HATE limit poker, because you are outdrawn so often and people can afford to stick around to do so. Thats why I always play tournament NL, or 1/2 NL cash tables (with a max buy in of course), to eliminate this from happening.
But being it was a limit game heres jus my thoughts The guy called a raise with AQ...nothing wrong there He had to figure you were going to bet the flop regardless and when it appeared for the most part rags, and the other opponent in the hand before you checked, he may of called thinking he either had the best hand, or if you were ahead with something like a small PP, that his call may slow you down and he may be able to take the pot down on the turn. The turn hits and you fire again, so he has to wonder if you are just sustaining your aggression or you have something legit....he has just hit top pair with top kicker though, so he calls The river hits and its a money card for him....trip Qs with top kicker. Considering what you held and what he held, wow thats awful! But as far as his play goes, its not great by any means, but it may not be as awful as it first appears to be. Lemme know what you think |
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03-01-05, 01:30 PM
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I never said his play was THAT terrible, just that it was a bad beat.
But, for the record, if he was going to stick around with his overcards, I'd rather see him raise with them on the flop. That way, he'll get the guy behind him off his hand and he'll get me to check to him on the turn (or so he would think), getting himself a free card and another chance to catch one of his overs. |
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03-01-05, 04:04 PM
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I agree with you. The only thing that may have gone through his head was he planned on calling the flop to see if you'd check the turn and give him control of the hand, if he didnt hit on the turn and you bet again hed be forced to either fold if you bet again, or raise to see if you were buying the pot.....but still a ridiculous beat.....oh yea, Kurn you really have somethin against AQ dont ya? lol
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03-01-05, 04:37 PM
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If he wanted control of the hand, he should have raised me on the flop (where it's cheaper than raising on the turn). That's my point.
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03-01-05, 09:49 PM
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Not disagreeing with you, just thinking what may have been going thru his head....also remember a call can sometimes be more effective than a raise....raises sometimes look funny, and are prone to reraises if they pick up a feeling of weakness (ex Jensen vs Greenstein WPT where Jensen reraised all in with bottom pair after being raised on his flop bet). A call (especially a quick call) may get the bettor to think his opponent may be slowplaying a big hand, and slow down...or if hes on a bluff will force a check allowing him to pick the pot up on the turn.....
I do agree with you though, I personally would of raised or folded, but I can see a case for the other way around also although I dont think itd be the smart move to make.......regardless we're getting away from the point which is you were over 92% preflop and over 97% after the flop and got outdrawn, by someone calling with overs of the flop.......Bad Beat.......... |
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