UB cheating as well?

[Zybomb]

I dont feel like wading thru 61 pages of crap so can someone summarize for me please?

FYI I think the two hands that were posted as evidence don't really seem to be that good evidence to suggest cheating.

[melioris]

sorry, I should have done better with the OP. The hands posted are not good examples at all. Later in the thread most of the HS players at UB on 2+2 wade in and all agree that the players named (I forget the screen names provided) set off alarms. These are HS players like durr, cts, and others that usually are very careful about protecting their public images. Essentially, one account in particular appeared, running 65/20 preflop, and went on a 3 week 150K-500K streak. The most damning circumstantial evidence was that this account was closed, not stopped playing, but cashed out and the account closed by user, on the same day that the AP story broke.

[Reel Deal]

[Talking Poker]

I believe AP and UB are owned/operated by the same scumbags people.

I don't play at either site any more, and frankly, it ASTOUNDS ME that other people still do.

There is more than enough game selection, big tourneys, bonuses, loyalty programs, and rakeback at Poker Stars and Full Tilt, that I really don't know why anyone would feel the need to play anywhere else.

Sure, there are a number other sites worth bonus whoring and beating up on the terrible players at the low limits, but at least avoid the ones that have been PROVEN themselves to be untrustworthy!!!

Be smart.

[skippy76]

yes. AP owns UB now, and i beleive this is the basis for the rumors about UB. the Kannehawk comission leveled some steep fines and made for future penalties to be far worse, i dont think AP is going to let it happen again