SD or NonSD?

[2Tone]

In live 3/6 and 4/8 limit games, you don't win many hands without show down.

When in doubt, Check/call the river!

[Talking Poker]

I tried to find the answer to this question with PT over a large sample of hands, but it takes forever.

So: I dunno.

[Wes]

Should be pretty easy to find in PokerEV (is your red line above your green line? then you are non-showdown).

[melioris]

or better yet, just click on the stats tab and look at the values.

[Talking Poker]

It's the loading a year or two's worth of data into PT or PEV or whatever that brings my computer to a halt.

[hackers238]

I play 8-16 tables of NL25, and as of June NL50.

My showdown winnings are much higher, but that might be a byproduct of bad players unconciously floating and thus me value betting very thin.

[melioris]

come folks, I need so more responders to this thread to get a larger sample size. For inspiration, go read this old BBV , and of course this .

[Talking Poker]

Didn't rerun this because of how long it takes to load (and me needing to donwload the latest version), but I remember when I did this for my entire 2007 numbers, my red line was like 10-15k above my green line.

So, non-SD for me, I guess.

Edit: Crap. Now I'm not sure if I'm remembering right.

[hackers238]

That program sucks efficiency wise, it always makes me download the "new version" (a lie, there are no new versions, just a timer which doesn't let you use it 2 days after downloading), and takes ridiculously long to do anything. Not to mention freezes my POS computer, crashes it, and generally messes shit up.

Just to tell me I suck in non-SD pots

[Talking Poker]

I answered based on The Storm's suggestion above (red line above green line), but if I was to guess blindly, I would guess that I win a lot more in non-SD pots than in SD pots.

But to be clear, which of the following are we talking about:

1. NET winnings (or losings) in SD vs. non-SD.
2. GROSS winnings (no losings included) in SD vs. non-SD.

I was assuming #1, but maybe that's not what you are talking about (that's obviously not how Robbr answered).

This thread confuses TP.

[Wes]

green line above red line = non showdown
red line above green line = showdown