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Old 06-10-08, 07:17 AM
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My call is he had an upset stomach. Seriously. He took a dump about 5 minutes befor *riders up*. No biggie, I've seen thousands of post parades and a horse shitting means nothing. However, as they were headed to the track, he twice raised his tail as if to take another dump and nothing came out. Same thing after the horses emerged from the tunnel. Finally, about 5 minutes before they went to the gate, the camera is on him again and he takes another dump. 4 attempts in 20 minutes looks to me like he might not have been feeling himself (I even commented on it before the race to my wife, then laughed at myself).

Couple that with the fact that he looked almost too relaxed in the post parade - alert, but definitely not on his toes, then he loses his footing on the break and is very rank running to the first turn trapped on the rail (where all his connections say he hates to be).

A lot of factors might have added up to this deafeat, but clearly he was gassed at the 1/2 pole. When I saw Desormeaux asking him to run even before they left the backstretch, I said "uh-oh."

And I told someone that the only way he could lose was if he fell down!
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Old 06-10-08, 10:57 AM
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looks like someones about to be glue.
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Old 06-10-08, 07:28 PM
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Please remove this from the sports section. If it didn't involve gambling, no one would give a flying fuck.

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If race riders aren't athletes, baseball players certainly aren't, thus by your standards baseball isn't a sport either. Clearly golf isn't either.
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Old 06-11-08, 07:40 PM
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Seriously?

A starting pitcher has a Cy Young season, makes 30 starts, wins 20 of them, sometimes throwing 120+ pitches, and goes on to need reconstructive surgery after the season to repair his arm from the grueling season.

A jockey rides a race and needs to change his fucking panties cause they're a little sweaty afterwards.
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Old 06-11-08, 07:49 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you've never ridden a horse.

Race riding is far more aerobic than pitching and requires more pure physical strength than any skill in baseball. I seem to recall in one of the original "Superstars" shows, Angel Cordero, giving away 100 lbs, lifting way more weight than Joe Frazier.

Different sports require different athletic skills and talent, but to even suggest that Bartolo Colon is an athlete and Kent Desormeaux isn't is laughable. I appreciate what it takes to pitch in the majors and I wouldn't disparage Colon or Sabbathia as not being athletes just because they're fatter than me. Both baseball players and race riders are athletes, and baseball players don't risk their lives.
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Gotta agree with Kurn on this one. A guy weighing a buck 20 controlling an animal that weighs a thousand lbs all the while racing along a track at what, 30 mph with 9 other beasts surrounding you??? Definitely a sport.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you've never played professional baseball.

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I will add though:

The physical talent and ability to play golf and/or baseball is always in question because people play it growing up. People know all about baseball and people play golf on the weekends with friends and assume it's all the same.

One horse race vs one single baseball game...maybe the horse race is more physically demanding. But we're talking about 8 months and probably about 200 games for a baseball season.

Controlling the horse and giving signals to the horse all while in a crouch for 3 minutes is very very tough.
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