Playing the BoP Triple Shootout today...

Wes · #1 06-01-09, 04:45 PM

I'm pretty sure ghosting is not against stars rules (simply because they did allow multiple people to play on one account during previous PCA's), so I don't really see a problem against it.

claudioxcore · #2 06-01-09, 04:47 PM

I'm pretty sure it isn't either... but it's irrelevant. It wasn't a ghosting request... I made it clear that I wasn't asking for a ghost, but people to critique hands they thought I may have misplayed.

thadeas1 · #3 06-01-09, 04:57 PM

First : Wes im not sure ghosting is against the rules either as it is really difficult for the sites to police or prove, but IMO as i stated before its wrong. What happens if im playing some $5 donkament and I get Mooreman1 or Stevie444 to ghost me? is that fair to the average $5 tourney player?

Second : claudio if you actually read your original post then you would understand how it comes across, you say you weren't asking for a ghost which is correct or in your own words "not necessarily full on ghost". Make me out to be the bad guy all you like and I dont care, at the end of the day you wanted realtime help as the hands played out and that is not right in my book, couldn't get away with it playing live so why should i tolerate it online?

claudioxcore · #4 06-01-09, 05:00 PM

You basically just reiterated what I said ... "Not necessarily a full on ghost" implying, I don't want realtime opinions on the hand ... because, that would be a full on ghost. Wow, I don't know how much more clear I could make it in the OP that I wasn't looking for someone to make decisions for me... but you're right thadeas, no one should be allowed to analyze hands that I've played online. We should probably delete the Hand Discussion section of the forum while we're at it.

You're ignorant. I'm not making you out to be the bad guy, I'm making you out to be the narrow minded clueless guy.

Fildy · #5 06-01-09, 05:00 PM

But it would have been okay to post on a forum and get a response that way?
The only difference is the speed at which the response comes so why should it matter? its essentially the same thing is it not?

jillaj · #6 06-01-09, 05:07 PM

Really at the end of the day you have no clue what he wanted. You only know what was typed into his message. Maybe the words didn't come out like he wanted them to, maybe they did. However you have no clue of his intent. Lots of people have a disconnect between what they think and what they can put on "paper". He stated he wanted second opinion on hands. Where did he mention he wanted the second opinion during the hand? I guess I don't see why you got your panties in a bunch over this.

Also there are many things you can't do live that you can do online and that makes none of them wrong.

Mogul4 · #7 06-01-09, 05:09 PM

Hmm, i have issues with this (but in a nice way)

People posts hands for analysis all the time, doing it via AIM with a ghost would be faster, but thats all.

As for getting good players to ghost you, surely if you think thats unfair then all the people paying $5 to enter a $5 tourney, and having JohnnyBax, PhilIvey, Mossified84 or someone joining would make it unfair to them too?

jillaj · #8 06-01-09, 05:13 PM

But at least they know they are playing them.

Mogul4 · #9 06-01-09, 05:15 PM

Yeah but the average $5 tourney guy wouldnt really know anyway, unless they read PTP/2p2 or something.

I can kinda see how this thread started, with claudio saying "While im playing".

But tbh i have no issues with anyone ghosting anyone else, ive done it for a few people before, both while active in a hand and after the hand for analysis.

Neither really changed the opinion much.

One last thing - what the fuck is the BoP? What site, anyone got a link?

jillaj · #10 06-01-09, 05:17 PM

Battle of Planets. It is a stars promotion for sit n gos.

claudioxcore · #11 06-01-09, 05:17 PM

a good read. check it out.

Wes · #12 06-01-09, 05:23 PM

As long as it is allowed by the rules of the site, I would think it is fair. Sure there are some aspects of how online is regulated that I disagree with, but saying it is unfair for someone to utilize this option seems a little too haste on something to whine about. If you don't like, complain to the site and/or play somewhere else.

Talking Poker · #13 06-01-09, 05:45 PM

This pretty much 100% sums up how I feel about the whole ghosting thing. I don't like it (it being "full on ghosting"), but if it's allowed by the poker sites, then it's well within a player's right to do it.

JDMcNugent7 · #14 06-01-09, 05:58 PM

Ya I see no problem with this at all. When I bought pieces of Straate to play in some 300/600 games he used camtasia with everyone who had a piece of him, and was chatting about all the hands and what different situations.

thadeas1 · #15 06-01-09, 06:25 PM

Well it seems that the majority rule and nothing is wrong with ghosting, fair enough but lets see what you say when you lose a major pot against someone and then it comes out that some high stakes pro basically told them what to do.

to Mogul4, bax and ivey aint regulars in the $5 tourneys but any player above the recreational standard will know the names and relise if they are at the table then they should pay more attention to them which distracts the attention from a unknown who could be ghosted by a big player, can you see the issue here? brian townsend even played on a different account so that people who knew his game didn't know he was playing.

And to everyone else that doesn't see a problem with the op then gg, i officially conceed, this forum has beaten me and im out, no big loss for a forum that has less than 3% of its membership posting regular. ha ha.

And finally claudioxcore, i am gonna send stars a email directing them to this thread, what they do with that information is basically up to them.

The integrity of the game is only as good as the integrity of the players.