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Old 03-17-05, 07:11 PM
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well to start with, if you got outflushed on the river, you didn't have the nut on 4th street. Other than that, I can understand how you feel at least, I could start a thread in Bad Beats from the last couple days titled 'KK, Why Have You Forsaken Me?'
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Old 03-17-05, 07:35 PM
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I don't see the benefit of them setting players up to lose after they win big. You are just running bad man. That was me two weeks ago, second best hand time after time. I'm doing ok now, and you'll pull out of it too. It's called variance. Or maybe your opponents read the "How to beat Party Poker" book shilled on their site 24/7, heh
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Old 03-17-05, 08:16 PM
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Yeah, I've been running very up and down lately. Have to keep muttering my new mantra, 'I will not be Brian...I will not be Brian...'
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Looking back at short term results, you can find pretty much any pattern you like. I have friends who insist (Warning: this is not a joke) that Ks and 5s usually hit the flop together on Party Poker. Uh huh, whatever.

It's just a short term random thing. If it happens 1000 times in a row, let us know. But before you do, first come up with a motive for Party Poker to run anything but a clean game. And think for am inute befoe you say something about "money." Think long and hard about how much money they make in rake through running clean games every single day. Then think about how much:
1. It would cost them to develop some crazy system that is out to get you.
2. It would cost them to pay off the programmer who wrote said system because if word of it ever got out.........
3. They would lose everything.

In summary.... It's not only not worth it, but it would be extremely STUPID for them to run anything but clean games.
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I do agree that they would have much more to lose than to gain but I am curious if they infact program certain hands to clash. How many times have you seen AA vs. KK? The odds of being dealt each hand is .5%. The other day I played a tournament and over the course of 3 hrs. I saw AA vs. KK 3 times. I know anyhting can happen in poker, it's a weird game, yada yada yada... but it does peak my curiosity a little.

I know they're not trying to set any of us up, but sometimes it's all too conincidental.
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Play in a live game for a while, and you'll quickly realize how silly it is to suggest that online poker is rigged.

As for AA vs. KK........ the odds beaing dealt AA or KK are 220:1 / 2 = 110:1. At a table with 10 players, that means AA or KK is going to be dealt every 11 hands - practically once per orbit. That means the odds of seeing both of them at the same time are 11:1*11:1 = 121:1.

So, on average, you should see this matchup three times every 363 hands. So yeah, seeing this over 3 hours of online play... sounds about right to me.

(Smart people - is my math right?)
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Old 03-18-05, 05:42 PM
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I can't speak to the actual calculations, but at the end you apparently forgot that he said he saw it *3* times in 3 hours, which would be somewhat above normal but hardly outside the realm of probability.
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Good post.

Just to add to that: @ a home game, third hand after sitting down:

Me: AA
Other Guy: KK
Other Guy #2: QQ

Sucks for those two, but I liked the result. Throughout the rest of the night, everyone kept talking about, "What are the odds of that happening!?" (More info about this hand somewhere in my blog.)
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