The TalkingPoker.com Forum  

Go Back   The TalkingPoker.com Forum > All Things Poker > General Poker Discussion
Register Blogs Arcade HH Converter Calendar

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-13-05, 06:40 PM
PShabi PShabi is offline
MC Adam Yauch
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,947
PShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep Points
Default

I'm sure I've pissed people off occasionally. But, I'm folding most of the hands anyway pre-flop. Post flop at a couple of tables can get a little sticky and I do drain the timers occasionally. Like TP said, that's why they're there.

One thing about my multi-tabling that I was going to make a post on a while ago:

I cannot play 3 tables. I've played up to 4 in a full ring, but my winrate sucks. I am making more playing 2 tables than 3 at six-max so far. Yeah, I haven't been playing that long, I know.

It changed for me last Monday when I dropped about 50BB 3-tabling. I cut back to 2 the next day and won a few pots with some awesome reads. I made a killer call in a huge pot with AK that I know I wouldn't have made without a specific read. It made me realize that these are plays I just don't make with 3 tables up. I think I was getting run over a lot. I was making cookie cutter plays and not playing my opponents as much.

At the risk of sounding arrogant or full or myself, I have made some fucking awesome plays in the last week that definitely were "by the book" based on a feel and reads of opponents.

I'm sticking to two tables from now on. If I can solidify 2BB/100 hands playing 3/6 short, I'll take that cash. $20-$25/hr not including rakeback, which looks like it could be insane. Sweet!
__________________
Get well soon, MCA!
  #2  
Old 06-13-05, 08:05 PM
robthedlphin's Avatar
robthedlphin robthedlphin is offline
Calling Station
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Honolulu
Posts: 175
robthedlphin has between 10 and 49 Rep Points
Default

Sorry for the gross generalizations:

Let’s say I sit at a table with two people who are multi-tabling. Both of these people are running approximately at 75% of their potential. Now, let’s say that both of these people are taking 5 seconds extra each time they bet, fold, etc. I say 5 seconds, because I’m sure they will be auto folding a lot and will not be 30 seconds late in doing this a lot of the time.

Those players see about 25% of the flops, 15-20% of the turns, and see about 10-15% of the rivers. (very gross generalization, I know)

Out of 100 hands, I’m missing out on 5 seconds for each flop = 500 seconds
5 seconds for the turn = 75-100 seconds
5 seconds for the river = 50-75 seconds

500 + 75 + 50 = 625 seconds

625 (2 players) = 1250 seconds

1250/60 seconds per minute = around 21 minutes extra for 100 hands

Now, each of these guys is playing at 75%. So say they normally win 10% of all hands dealt to them. Now for every 100 hands they are dealt they will lose an extra 2.5 hands each, or 5 all together. These hands are distributed evenly amongst the players so that I get 1/10 of them. This means out of 100 hands I’m going to get ½ hand. This means that I need to play for 42 minutes to win 1 extra hand--just because they take an extra 5 seconds to bet each time.
  #3  
Old 06-13-05, 08:12 PM
2Tone's Avatar
2Tone 2Tone is offline
WA's most wanted
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,800
2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points
Default Maybe but ...

But keep in mind, that's per table. If you play four tables at once, then you only need to play an extra 10.5 minutes.
  #4  
Old 06-13-05, 08:18 PM
Talking Poker's Avatar
Talking Poker Talking Poker is offline
Adminimus Maximus
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florida Coast
Posts: 27,480
Talking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep Points
Default Fun with numbers...

....but I don't think so.

For starters, I multi-table, and no way am I 5 seconds slower per action (on average) than the average player. I can't prove it, but I would venture a guess that I am actually FASTER than the average player, even including the rare occasions when I get caught up in something and the clock starts ticking.

Of course, that's just me. In an extreme example, I could see a multi-tabler taking an extra 5 seconds per action maybe 10% of the time... so really, that's only an extra 1/2 second per action. Rerun your numbers and you'll want to play with the multi-tablers.

If you don't, so be it. Change tables.

One more piece of advice: You'll never be successful at poker if you don't learn to be patient.... This is as good a place as any to start.
__________________

Got RakeBack?
27% at Full Tilt | 33% at Cake Poker | 30% at Carbon Poker
  #5  
Old 06-13-05, 08:40 PM
robthedlphin's Avatar
robthedlphin robthedlphin is offline
Calling Station
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Honolulu
Posts: 175
robthedlphin has between 10 and 49 Rep Points
Default

Maybe it's the website I'm at then. I don't think Pokerroom lets you see multiple tables at the same time. I think most people stay at one table until the other table(s) starts flashing at the bottom of their screen, then switch, look and think, and bet.
  #6  
Old 06-13-05, 09:17 PM
GeoffM's Avatar
GeoffM GeoffM is offline
Captain Charisma!
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 3,246
GeoffM has between 100 and 249 Rep PointsGeoffM has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default

I can comfortably fit 2 tables on my monitor at Pokerroom. Just gotta play with the settings a bit.
__________________
That's how I rolled.
  #7  
Old 06-13-05, 10:12 PM
PShabi PShabi is offline
MC Adam Yauch
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,947
PShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep Points
Default

No, no, no. You need to change the resolution on your monitor. People generally see all of their tables simultaneously while multitabling.
__________________
Get well soon, MCA!
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2004-2008 TalkingPoker.com