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Old 06-19-05, 12:02 AM
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For the record, I don't think there is a right and a wrong play here. You can make a case for either folding or pushing.... or even calling. This situation is more about personal preference than right or wrong.

I would have pushed, but I wouldn't fault someone for a second for folding here if they explained why they were folding, which Penguin has done.

In the Main Event of the WSOP, if we're down to the bubble and there is a $20k or so difference between being knocked out next ($0) and folding for a few hands and waiting for someone else to be knocked out.... you can bet your ass it's going to be hard for me to play any hand against a bigger stack, even AA. I'd like to think I would push my chips in, but when it comes down to it, I don't know that I would. I'm pretty sure I would, but like I said, I don't know...
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Old 06-19-05, 01:37 AM
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And for the record... You would still be wrong..... (From a poker standpoint).
But, you could bet your ASS that I would fold 10 straight hands of Pocket Aces, if it guaranteed me $20k.
Incorrect poker, yes.
Money that makes a difference, also yes.

As for Penguins little tantrum?
I agreed with him. If the $50 makes a difference, then fold.
And I told him so.
This was not "the correct" play, as it comes to "winning" the tournament, and or placing high, as I also said.
But in his case he wanted $50 so it was correct.

Then Penguin took some good-natured ribbing the wrong way and JUNYUN stuck his nose into something stupid.

I'm beginning to see why Brian does it...
It's alot of fun stirring the pot.
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I would push with AA all day long, no matter the situation, knowing I did the right thing.
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Old 06-19-05, 02:24 AM
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You are telling me that in your current financial situation, if you somehow made it to the bubble of this year's WSOP, and had the choice of Folding AA and being guaranteed $20K (or more), or getting all-in vs a bigger stack and most likely doubling up but with the chance to go broke and win $0 you would play that?

Not me man, I'd take the guaranteed cash.
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Old 06-19-05, 12:35 PM
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I'd push with AA.

First of all, if I'm playing in the WSOP, I want life changing money. How do you go to sleep wondering what might have been? You have AA!!! This is pissing me off more and more by the minute.

Secondly, 30 years from now, i'd rather pop in the DVD and show my grandkids how I busted out in the WSOP with AA. Not how I played like a yeast-infected vagina for 20k when I had the chance to set my kids up for life. It's not like you had fucking QQ.

Post all the hypotheticals you want. If the whole table went all-in and you had aces on the button, on the bubble, blah blah blah.
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I agree with Pshabi... if your not playing to win, you shouldnt be playing.

If I lose out on $50 by being a 100 to 1 fav or something on the bubble, so be it but Im putting my money in everytime.
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Poker is entirely situational. There's never any play that is the right thing to do 100% of the time, even with AA or 2/7.
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Old 06-19-05, 12:29 PM
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BTW,

How many times has Penguin asked for "your thoughts" and then cussed out the people who didn't agree with him?

If you don't wanna play 5 hours for nothing Penguin, then don't play 2000 player MTT freerolls.



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