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Gordogg · #1 07-21-05, 09:24 PM

See what do I know? You have to factor in the fish in my opinion. If the games are soft you don't need as many BB. I'm sure many will disagree but that's been my experience.

Talking Poker · #2 07-21-05, 09:52 PM

100 BB is the absolute minimum to take a (possibly brief) shot at a higher limit, but 300 is the rule of thumb.

BTW, BB here refers to "Big Bets" - not "Big Blinds." So, to play $2/$4 limit, for example, you should have a $1200 bankroll (300 * $4).

Gordogg · #3 07-21-05, 10:01 PM

Exactly. Could be brief, but if the fish are around and you have game, and you don't get bad beated to death, it's enough to work with. If you want to consider getting bad beated to death, you need more.

JDMcNugent7 · #4 07-22-05, 01:20 AM

Ya, I play NL, and I am going with the 300BB to know when to move up. For Tournys i often buy into stuff like 100BB tho, but i have had good turnouts so it's working out.

Talking Poker · #5 07-22-05, 01:21 AM

The 300BB guideline is mostly for limit. For tourneys and NL, I'd stick with my "Never sit down with more than 5% of your roll" suggestion.

badblood44 · #6 07-22-05, 12:10 PM

For the math-impaired, that translates into having 20x your buy-in. If you play the $50 buy-in NL tables, have $1000 in your bankroll.

Windbreaker · #7 07-22-05, 12:40 PM

I think for NL, the guidelines depends on your style of play and how much your starting bankroll is. If your bankroll is only $50 then I wouldn't mind putting it all in one table because:

A) winning 2 dollars on the 5/10 cent tables after an hour is a waste of time
B) Players at the lower stakes more often than not are poor players
C) I'm disciplined enough to lay down a hand to an over bet even if I may think I'm ahead

Yes, it's never really a good idea to place your entire bankroll on one table, but if $50 is all you can afford to put into poker, quit and get out of the game.

I think for players with limited bankrolls or are new players that SNG are by far the best way to learn and earn money. If you keep buying in for 5.50 or so, you'll quickly learn to find a way to get into the money and usually you can get an hour+ at the table without risking all that much.

The worse way to spend the majority of your bankroll is on a MTT. The majority of the payout is in the final table. For people with limited bankrolls this is a poor way to build a bankroll. It's almost like a lottery. You know your shots at winning it aren't great, but if you finish well you're getting a huge payout.

nutbag · #8 07-21-05, 09:55 PM

I think it depends on what type of "fish" you're talking about. The weak tight ones, you don't have to worry about much. But if you get into a juicy game with one or two maniacs, get ready for some variance.

I'm with pshabi for six max limit games. 300 is definately the lowest amount I'd take to a limit game.

You usually post NL hands though, and I don't know much about that, but 20-30 buy ins is what i remember reading. This is talking longterm bankroll mangement/second income though; if you're playing with more expendable money you can obviously have much more leeway.