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Old 10-04-05, 08:36 PM
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Pretty much what TP said. You are kinda acting like you made him fold the best hand or something, you had top 2 pair, you don't even need to represent a flush for him to fold there. Showing in this situation he would still be pleased with his fold for sure, its not like he folded a set or something.
In both real life and internet i show my hands when it's just a huge bluff or they guess at what i have and are completely wrong, I never show my good hands. On the internet if you find the right idiots this can get you some ridiculous action and you can just completley dominate from there on.
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Old 10-04-05, 11:21 PM
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Most has already been said but I'll add a few bullets

Its a little confusing if the three others called the maniacs raise after you did or before you did. If it was before, this being a limit game I don't think three betting would of shortened the field any when players were in for two bets already... also being limit it would limit (no pun intended) the effectiveness of a continuation bet the 2 out of 3 times in which you miss the flop. So in essense with a drawing hand (and thats what AKs is) I don't mind just smooth calling here, and treating the hand as simply a drawing hand that you can get away from if an unfavorable flop occurs..... of course it also means you may waste a big hand though.

If you were the first to act, I would of three bet here to limit the field , as the remaining players would have to cold call 2 bets in order to proceed...and then in essence increase the effectiveness of your continuation bet should you miss the flop.

2 pair is generally NOT a slowplaying hand (maybe HU) especially not with a flush draw present as well.... obviously when your two pair is AK its very different that if its 9 3 on a 9 6 3 flop., as your two pair cant be negated by pairing the board. In this case where you are sure to get action I dont mind a check in this spot. Once the other players fold and its down to HU, because of your read I think a call is the correct move. The only thing you dont wanna see (third of a suit) comes on the turn... so youve got to play it aggressively as you cant afford for a 4th card to come of the suit. I'd lead out here usually... but again since you are fairly sure about getting action, a check raise works great.

As everyone said, you had the best hand... why show him he made the right laydown (and show people how you play AKs preflop, two pair on the flop, and 2 pair once a flush comes on the turn) Your passiveness preflop, check call on the flop then check raise on the turn definately screamed out flush draw, then completed flush.... if this player respects when you bump up the pot, use this in correct situations to steal the pot from him (but dont overdue it, or he'll catch on quick and get mad you are trying to take over his job as the bully) Also if you do flop a flush draw, play it the same way if you think that he will think you are just trying to use the situations to steal, bc of the credit he gave you for the flush last time....he'll pay you off
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Old 10-05-05, 12:00 AM
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i will show a bluff to the table, but i wont show down legitimat ehands. i dont want other people to know how i might play a draw versus a made hand, so when i win a pot uncontested with a legitimate hand i wont show.

since i generally play tight the occasional bluff that i show will get me action later.

regarding the hand you have here. i would have been more aggressive early, as that flop is too draw heavy for you to be happy with, even with what is 99% the best hand right then and there. take advantage of your premium hands against an aggresive player who is running over the table and fire back at him. dont get invovled with marginal hands when he is still left to act, as you will end up throwing money away, but when you have a premium hand punish him with it.
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Old 11-30-05, 03:06 AM
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i never show my cards unless its to piss some one off why let them get any read on you, play your game and be the one with the answers!
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