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omahilo · #1 10-18-05, 10:35 PM

you got greedy... I rather win a 15 or 20K pot than lose a 40K pot.

Talking Poker · #2 10-18-05, 10:39 PM

Bingo. I understand the reason for the slowplay, but you're not allowed to complain about a bad beat when not ONCE did you give him an opportunity to fold.

sjay2k · #3 10-18-05, 10:51 PM

I don't think the slowplay is that bad at all. The board isn't very draw heavy. But I still pop it on the turn.

JDMcNugent7 · #4 10-18-05, 10:58 PM

me 2- but think about it - I'd rather win a 40k pot, than a 20k pot, WHEN he has 5% to make his hand from the flop , and 12% for the river - It makes calculated sense to take that chance, in the long run trying to win the 40k pot would work out way in the +EV.

Zybomb · #5 10-18-05, 11:17 PM

I pop it on the turn also... here's why. You had the mother of all flops. Youh it a set and an Ace AND a King also hit the board....there is a HUGE possibility that this player has hit top pair, maybe top two, etc. Meaning he is GOING to pay you off. This is one of the times I fast play, depsite the lack of logical draws on the flop

JDMcNugent7 · #6 10-18-05, 11:28 PM

RIght- but like i said - I played with him for an hour - I was 90% sure he was stone cold bluffing- and was right - it just worked out for him - if i can find it ill post the hand i won all his chips back on and prove to u ALL he does is bluff.

Any other player i would have been pushing back- figuring either way all the chips were going in, thinking any other opponent would have sumthin like AK or AQ or some other strong hand.

johnp158 · #7 10-19-05, 03:31 AM

Ok. That's fine. So you take the calculated risk, which, to you in this situation, is worth it. What this also means is that, when he hits, you have to say, "Well I accomplished my goal, which was slow-playing so he would give me his chips, and I lost. I could have avoided it, but I didn't."

And any complaining isn't justified, because of the risk that you could have avoided.

Again, I know this is after a long series of beats. But it seems that this is the kind of situation you want to avoid after a long day of bad beats. If you have the chance to take down a nice pot AND avoid tilt, isn't that better than making a bigger gamble and risking getting really pissed off?

JDMcNugent7 · #8 10-19-05, 05:14 PM

I dont get really pissed off about that stuff or go on tilt - i did end up finishing 5th in this, so im not gonna make a too aggressive play to avoid tilt since i dont feel i really ever tilt anymore.

I guess i can't complain , but i still think its a pretty bad (crazy) beat.

Gordogg · #9 10-19-05, 06:15 PM

I'd raise the turn as well. Since he raised preflop and on the flop I'd put him on top pair at least. Reraising on the turn in that situation, after he's invested so much money into the pot, usually doesn't make an average/bad player fold when they have at least top pair with solid kicker. So by reraising on the turn, you still might win that 40k pot if he calls off his chips with TPTK or two pair. If he does fold, oh well. Still a nice pot. I'm not saying you played it wrong because you did have a solid read on the guy and went with it. You were right on with your read, just got really unlucky.