general league rules

jaeh00d · #1 11-30-05, 04:10 PM

well i understand what youre saying. so its either more people less money or less people more money. Or maybe make a compomise andmeet in the middle and make it 10 dollars. And have buy ins between 5 and 10 dollars.

Make it so top 6 in the league are eligible for something special at the end. maybe call t final event

BrianSwa · #2 11-30-05, 04:13 PM

that sounds dooable to me, just gotta make sure you use like top 6 or 7 scores throught the league so its fair to everyone. I can garantee you not everyone is gonna make all the torneis. Also gotta try to set them at different times am/pm...

jaeh00d · #3 11-30-05, 04:18 PM

Exactly!

This isnt something that we can start within the next couple of days. I say its something that we need to plan for a while. Take our time with it that way we can get it run right. And actually get everyones input and just make it imply a majority rulesthat is the most civil way we can do this. So i think we need to talk all of this over. Maybe even attempt a minumum of 25 people i dont know if that can be done but it sounds right Because remember like you said we wil not e able to get evryone and not verone is going to want to play omaha and stud if we do have it.

So we need to plan this for a while, and figure out an actual schedule.

jaeh00d · #4 11-30-05, 04:22 PM

Or how about if its a 10 dollar league buy in and we have minumum of 20 players. The top 6 players using the point system will all meet for a " WPT Style Final Table " for the entrance fee prize pool. I thik that sounds nice it gives you something to shoot for in the end with you being consistent as lon as your earnings you take through your individual tournament earnings

BrianSwa · #5 11-30-05, 04:25 PM

after the holidays for sure, was thinking 2 games a week one AM and one PM, one on weekend and one on weekday. Probollly weekend one in AM, run it for a month meaning 8 games and top 5 scores just to see how it runs. If its a sucess then run it longer next time. If we have enough people then yea we can run a top 6 at end of league.

jaeh00d · #6 11-30-05, 04:32 PM

I think Pokerstars would be the best due to the fact that majority of people here have a running account with Ps.

And yea different buy ins would be great also.

And yes th minumum 30 woud be great so that way we can hopefully get he 18-20 because like you said not everyone will show. So if we get 2/3 to show we would be looking at 18 which is good.

And maybe i we do have enough player fo thetop 6 " so called main event " we could even allow other players to buy in that were not in the top 6 but for a larger price to add the pool for the main event. But the top 6 will generally get a free roll to the main event.

gimme your input

BrianSwa · #7 11-30-05, 04:34 PM

good idea.

BrianSwa · #8 12-01-05, 12:05 AM

bump,

hey tp can you sticky all the leaugue threads please.

BDMK · #9 12-01-05, 12:37 AM

yes!

with the crasher nonsense now behind us, let's talk real business.

i enjoyed playing against the forum 'regulars' and would love to do so again in a crasher-free environment.

let's hope we work out the league.

if not, and/or till it starts, at the very least, can we have (a) $5+.50 forum pvt tourney(s) on stars soon? pretty please!

BlibbityBlabbity · #10 11-30-05, 04:23 PM

I think it sounds like $10 would be a good idea, IMO. That would give a pretty big pool and hopefully will let enough people participate.

Question 1:
Would anyone NOT participate due to the league entry fee if it was $10 (either because that is too high or because it HAS to be $20 in their opinion)?

I agree with Brian that a 25 player pool would be a "good" size BUT, if we are having 2-3 events each week, not everyone is going to show up for all of them, then I think we need to have 30+ overall to get the turnout (at least 10) for each event.I would rather see this be 18-20 minimum per event but I doubt that is going to happen (based on past results).

Question 2:
Would it be possible to have some events at a different site? For example Stars is $10+$1 and u for buyins. If we were able to also set up some other games at Full Tilt (variety of games and $5+.50 buyin) would that make sense (or would anyone have a problem with it)? Both Stars and Full Tilt are said to have good tourney structures, right?

BrianSwa · #11 11-30-05, 04:28 PM

having it on multiple sites might cause problems for some. Might mean that some might have to move money around and they may not want to but I think we could put it up for a vote. I agree the $10 is a good amount. Maybe try to keep the 1st one just on stars then if its a sucess maybe next one run at multiple sites.

BrianSwa · #12 11-30-05, 04:32 PM

ok everyone should make 1 event a week right?

how about we do this 6 weeks long top 6 scores count.

2 games per week.

this way you can play all 12 if you want to increase your odds of getting better scores but if you only make 1 a week you still will get to put a complete score in.

jaeh00d · #13 11-30-05, 04:34 PM

how about the two events a week being nl hold em. and throwing in another omaha or sevencard in there to make it sometimes 3 per week

BrianSwa · #14 11-30-05, 04:37 PM

K that would mean 18 events so lets say top 12 should count. that would mean you would have to try to make at least 2 a week which shouldnt be hard. Unless your good enough to win like 4 in a row then you might have enough points to get you in no matter what.

I can dig that.

BrianSwa · #15 11-30-05, 04:39 PM

whoever keeps track of this i suggest screen shots of the torney lobby after the torney and posting it in a seperate thread. Also a point total for each player for that torney so people can keep track as long as they remember its only top 12 point totals that go towards there total points for league.

jaeh00d · #16 11-30-05, 04:41 PM

Exactly top 12 finishes count. Honestly i wont be playing the seven card stud events. The NL Hold em and Omaha events I am in for sure. So out of 18 events yur top 12 finishes count, that souds great.

So we will need to write out a schedule. I think saturday's at noon is a good time. and weeknights at 8 or 9 is a good time also. We just need to find te peak times when most people will show. Those of you in leagues prior can mostlikely fgure that out.

420Smurf · #17 11-30-05, 04:42 PM

Going back to the buy ins for a second, doesn't really matter to me I would like to play in this if it gets going here but something to think about maybe is the kind of turn outs that you aim to get, just starting maybe you might do a little lower entry and buy ins to gather interest and results. Of course anything new will take a trial run so to speak anyhow but I would like to see something like this become a go. Interested to see how it works out and maybe heck , it could be a normal deal.

Talking Poker · #18 11-30-05, 05:15 PM

I think the entire league should be on one site (Poker Stars), and I think we should start in Janaury.

BrianSwa · #19 11-30-05, 05:17 PM

agreed, january would be best and stars I think is best. thinking around like
january 5th or so give people time to get back home from vacation and get over the massive hangovers.

BlibbityBlabbity · #20 11-30-05, 05:18 PM

Where is Geoff anyway???

Talking Poker · #21 11-30-05, 05:23 PM

Just in time for me to miss the first week or so because I'll be in the Bahamas

BDMK · #22 11-30-05, 06:40 PM

ok, i think this might be a tad more difficult to set up than i initially thought.

but, at least, let me share with you my general thoughts on the whole thing, for what they're worth, and being that i'm still a newbie around here, i'll simply let all of you forum vets/2 mods/1 owner decide on the final details, etc.

lets say 10 games in 10 consecutive weeks, most preferably on weekdays/weeknights, as sat/sun are big event/sat/qualifier days on all the major sites. i'd start in mid-january, or around/after jan 15, 2006, to be exact, so ppl have time to come back from any extended vacations/wpt bahamas/aussie millions/etc.

i'd like to see it all on stars and all NLHE. i fully admit to being selfish on both of these points, because stars is where i play only and NLHE is the only poker format i play/know/have interest in. however, i dont think most ppl will object to an all-stars league, being that most here seem to play there a lot. also, since NLHE is by far the most popular poker game anyway, i dont think an all-NLHE format should be a huge problem too.

lets say make the league events half freeroll and half buyin, and all equally counting towards the league standings. the buyin component, in itself, should effectively shoo away any potential remaining freeroll chasers. further, as i already said in the other related thread, there is a fine line between potentially a total chaos, if everything's totally free, on one hand, and very few, if any ppl, attending anything at all, if it becomes 'expensive' to participate, esp on a regular basis, on the other. to that end, i dont think there should be any league entry fee at all as well. also, i'd keep the buyin events at the min allowed pvt event buyin amt on stars, which i think is $5, or to be exact, $5+0.50.

as for the league points, i'd make them as simple as possible. the last league i attended had a somewhat complicated math formula, which i dont think is really necessary at all. i'd just award league points to all the final tablers of an event, and perhaps as simply as this: from 10 pts for 1st place down to 2 pts for 9th. or, if u want to keep it simple/'decimal', top 10 finishers: from 10 pts for 1st place down to 1pt for 10th.

keep the individual event prizes as small as possible, in other words no need to add anything extra to the prize pool, except of course for the freeroll events. give the rest/bulk of the total league prize pool to the final league winner(s) up/down to, say, 10th place.

that's it from me for now. if i have/remember anything more to add later, i'll edit this accordingly.

EDIT: two more things, real quick: 1) can u pls sticky this thread; 2) can we keep all league suggestions/brainstorming/etc in this/one single thread, just for the sake of simplicity?

drewjax · #23 12-01-05, 12:50 AM

my head hurts

BrianSwa · #24 12-01-05, 01:36 PM

here is what we got so far, its far from final but thought id get a clean post about it.

Buy in for league most likley is gonna be $5 or $10 for entry to league.

games will be held on stars and all tornies will be pay tornies, I really dont want TP putting any money into this. The guy has paid enough about time he got a break in my opinion. If he wishes to put something up at end of league for the top 6 people in league to play for thats fine.

I would like to alternate the buyins for the tornies but I think the lowest buy in tornies at stars are $10 is this right or can you also do $5 ones anyone know?

hold-em seems like MOST people prefer game so think we should do 2 holdem and one alternate game per week. That would seem fair to everyone.

participation in the weekly games is another story we need at least 2 tables to make the torney go for that day. So at least 20 people need to show up for the game if not the torney should be canceled that day.

anyone got anything else to add to this speak up.

Hawt · #25 12-02-05, 01:46 AM

I am interested in how the top players would be determined. I have a really small bankroll (like $30) that I have built up from my original winnings at the freeroll tournament. So if we need to play like 10 tournaments just to be considered, I would be hard pressed to determine if my bankroll could handle it.

(I would have to cash in every tournament I play in just to keep going.)

Also would it matter if say I did play 10 tournaments but they were all NLHE or all the cheap buy ins, ($5-$10)? I guess, do you get more points for a 1st place finish in a higher buyin than you would a lower buyin?