so who is really in

BrianSwa · #1 12-02-05, 01:50 PM

I like this idea alot, I think this is the best idea for our league. I also like the fact that we can let non payers in at last minute if we need to. Maybe like we could hold contest that week and the prize is entry into league for following week.

wow thats a great idea didnt even cross my mind way to go.

BrianSwa · #2 12-02-05, 01:54 PM

I dont think we should have more then 15 games though dont want anyone paying more then $75. so we could do 2 games a week top 10 count.

BlibbityBlabbity · #3 12-02-05, 01:56 PM

There also is no longer a per tourney buyin anymore (in that system) so if $50 overall or $75 overall is reasonable to everyone then just do that and then the prize pool will be split up at the end anyway...

BrianSwa · #4 12-02-05, 02:00 PM

I agree with dropping the per torney buy-ins and just having a overall pool to be split with top point winners. The price will be debated on, maybe do another poll later on this week. Still got to do the top 10 out of 15 games to make it fair if you dont make some of them. I will start jotting down the names tonight and get to work on that, im guessing everyone that already said yes is still in since this is actully cheaper then the other way. Are freerolls without any money added hard to set up?

I really like the idea of letting non league players play if we dont have enough players, it lets everyone maybe get involved in this. Maybe run like contests to see if you get entry in the torney that night.

BlibbityBlabbity · #5 12-02-05, 02:08 PM

I don't hink we can do a points system if there are other players in it. That really messes with the placing. If you got knocked out in 9th place and three non league players finish in 8th, 7th, 6th and then there are league polayers finishing after that then your points are skewed more than they need to be due to the filler players. Not counting the other players in the lineup of finishers would correct this, BUT it would defeat the purpose of having filler players since there would still only be as many league placings as there are league players.

I think if we go with that then it needs to be top finisher in each event (only league players count) gets entry into a final event.

I will give this some more thought and type up a full proposal for the way this might wiork later (need something to do at work, right?)

BrianSwa · #6 12-02-05, 02:13 PM

I think we can still use point system but just use league players in it.

say we get event with 9 league players and fill it with 11 no league memebers, we just black out the non-league memebers and award places to the league memebers just like it was only them playing. So say i got 2nd and you got 5 and jimmy got 8. It would be just like me getting 1st (longshot) you gettin 2nd and jimmy getting 3rd. That way we award the points like that.

its idea what do you think?

Talking Poker · #7 12-02-05, 02:17 PM

If you are doung that, why bother allowing the non-mebers in in the first place? Why not just play with the three of you, who you at least know will be taking it seriously?

I must be missing something here.

Talking Poker · #8 12-02-05, 02:13 PM

If these are set up as freerolls, what's to prevent members and ESPECIALLY non-mebers from playing like this is Play Money? Won't that really throw off the whole thing? I guess it would even out for everyone, but from all the hating that play money gets around here (especially from you), I'm surprised you'd be for this idea.

In theory, it's not a bad one... but I can forsee all sorts of problem is there isn't some sort of entry fee for each tourney...

BlibbityBlabbity · #9 12-02-05, 02:18 PM

This is a good point.

Brian, in your example above there would still only be 9 league placings (since the other 11 are excluded) though, and we need 15 to have the points work.

BrianSwa · #10 12-02-05, 02:21 PM

how do you think we should do it then?

say like in my example you get 20 people and had to let 11 non league memebers in how do you give them points? how do you keep track of how they are doing in league?

BlibbityBlabbity · #11 12-02-05, 02:23 PM

I'll type something up a little later and post it up. I have to get ready to go to work in a few minutes.

BrianSwa · #12 12-02-05, 02:24 PM

alright, gotta get some sleep so Ill check in later and take a look. Thanks for help BB (dad) JK

Nikita · #13 12-02-05, 04:08 PM

I have an idea to deal with letting non-league members play and the point system. I don't know if it's a good idea, but it's a thought. What if the non-league members act as ringers for league memebers who can't play. So say you can't play as a league member, but you find a non-league member that can. They play and get assigned the points depending on the place they make. But those points don't go to them, they actually get "transferred" to the league member who asked that person to play. The bad thing about this idea is finding that ringer (maybe use this forum) and the skill level of the ringer. If the ringer is better than the league member it may be unfair. But maybe set up rules that you can use a ringer only so many times. I dunno, like I said, just a thought.

BrianSwa · #14 12-02-05, 02:18 PM

I agree I hate freerolls but its not really a freeroll because you are playing to accumulate points for a big payday at end of league. If we invite the non payers to play that day it will be basicly a come 20 minutes before league to see if you can play, we all like playing together so I think people will show up just for a fun game with freinds.

I see your point about people playing it like freeroll, BUT I think most on this site would play it serious. Now if i was somewere else id be like no way but even the play money people here seem serious about poker.