Challenge of the Poker Forums !

[Nikita]

It's a good idea in theory Rook, but even though we don't want to call it a freeroll, without an actual buy-in at PS, it's a freeroll. If we do that, I can see a ton of crashers trying to get in. Look what happened to shabi and the forum with the RVP one. I don't think TP wants to go through that again. And personally, I'd be afraid to put my $5 in and then have a tournament with a bunch of crashers.

I've also actually been at that site. When I wanted to learn more about poker, I started searching for poker sites and stumbled on that one first. All I found there was a bunch of freeroll chasers. People begging for passwords to freerolls they weren't invited to and actually getting them. I've seen people over there that were banned from here during the first freeroll where there was a post requirement. I'd be worried that some of their forum members won't want to pay and will get the password anyway. I didn't like the site and haven't been since I first found it.

I also doubt very many of them will be competition. From what I gathered, it seemed only the admin and mods played seriously for real money.

P.S. I'm soooo glad I found TP.com.

[Talking Poker]

I'm in complete agreement with N1k... sorry rook, but it's actually a really bad idea. Not to mention how much extra hassle it would be for me. $10 should be fine. Unless, as I said, the other Admin wants to set something up wherever.

[rookette22]

Yeah you make a good point. Never thought about the crashers.

Hmm...but $10 is still too pricey for some members.

Let's just stop and think for a minute; do you really think that the members that put in their $5 would want to give the pw away? I would think once they put their money into this tourney they wouldn't want to give their pw away to crashers. And we'd only give out the pw 15 mins before tourney. I'll take care of that myself by emailing or pm'ing everyone involved once i have the list. I'd never post the password, that too me is asking for trouble.

[Talking Poker]

You're being really naive, rook. What's to prevent Person X from paying $5 for the password and then selling it to 10 of his buddies for $2 each?

It's a bad idea.... if that's how it's run, I can promise you that you won't get my $5.

If $10 is too much for someone to spend, then they probably shouldn't be spending $5 either.

[rookette22]

Don't give up on the idea so quickly.

Look at when pshabi sent out the password, all went well remember? It could work out if the right precautions are taken. Bad idea to post the password, Good idea to send pw 15-20 mins prior to start of tourney.

[BrianSwa]

this goes for the freeroll thing when you do a freeroll dont put the forum name in the freeroll or little buy in event or whatever.


do like TPfreeroll or something along those lines the other forum I belong to does PPPfreeroll and we NEVER have crashers. Im sure the ones that really want to figure it out will but most are lazy.

[rookette22]

I wouldn't even suggest putting down 'freeroll'. My friends have one every Friday night; they put whatever name. This way you don't get a bunch of crashers. Common sense if you put Freeroll in the name you'll get crashers; duh. And don't make it stand out so much by using a different color font. Blend it in with the rest of them.

You think it's a bad idea too Brian?

[BrianSwa]

could be yes could be no, putting TPfreeroll is fine because if someone can figure out what TP stands for good for them. But like you said putting no name is fine also. I wont be joining because I got too many things going on right now and dont have alot of money to spend right now.

there are reasons why its good idea and reasons why it is bad idea just have to weigh the good against the bad and see if its worth it. I honestly dont want to see the forum go through the mess it went through a couple weeks ago so id probobly vote no on freeroll idea. If you make it a $10 buy-in id probobly say sure.

[Talking Poker]

Stars does the color coding automatically. So even if the word "freeroll" isn't in the title, the freeroll chasers still no where to look.

[Nikita]

I'm still interested in this, but I just think it needs refining. Brian seems to have a good idea, but I'm really worried about that other forum. What's to stop them from posting the password in their forum? Or PMing the pw days before the event leading to possible leaks?

[rookette22]

This is my idea...I'll take responsibility for it. I won't tell anyone the pw until the right time. The other admin will have to do it my way or no way. And he's kewl enough to agree with it, I'm pretty sure of that; now we wait for TP.

I did it this way so as not to let TP or the other admin make it a freeroll out of their pocket. Didn't think it was fair, cus TP's given us so much already. That was the first idea mind you. But that's a sure fire way to get all kinds of crashers.

We have lots of time to work on this; we're not doing anything till TP comes back from his trip; but I would however like his blessing on this, if not then forget the whole idea.

[Talking Poker]

EXACTLY. No way would *I* participate in a tourney set up like this. I trust Stars with my buy in money, but not dozens of "unknowns." It's just a BAD IDEA.

I'm certain we'd lose more people if they had to go through all this to play than we would because the tourney costs $10 instead of $5. 100% certain.

Not to mention all the headache, hassle, chasers, beggers, and hard feelings from the people who want to play but the password hander outer decides aren't trustworthy enough, etc, etc...

[Talking Poker]

I haven't read through this entire thread yet, so my replies might be a bit dated, but I figured I might as well respond as I see thing. So, for this post:

My answer is still "No." And it's still going to be "No" even if you keep trying to convincce my how good this idea is. If you need a better reason that what I've already listed, how about the pain in the ass of collecting money from people, having to email the Stars affiliate people to set up the tourney, etc, etc, etc.

As I said, I'm not interested, but if the other forum leader wants to go through all of that, so be it.

I guess I just don't see the point though. I mean, how many people CAN afford to spend $5 but CAN'T afford to spend $10? I really think you're making this huge issue out of less than 5 people, if I had to guess... probably more like 2.

[rookette22]

Call me whatever you like; Pshabi's idea to pm the password worked out fine...I think if you give this a chance it will too. But then again if you want to do it your way at the $10 buy-in and play with 7 or less ppl that's fine. Whoop-ti-doo... wonder how much fun that'll be?!

All that within 15 mins prior to tourney???? Nice of you to give them all THAT idea now.

Think about it? I said I'd take responsibility for the pm of password; I think you're making it sound worse than it actually is.

[HEwong]

ill participate in a challenge between poekr forums.

[Tony Cheval]

...and we have an early candidate for Post of the Year!

[rookette22]

LMAO... out of context!

[PShabi]

Did you read the freeroll thread, rook? Everything hardly went fine. I had to weed through endless idiot posts and retarded PMs to get the password out. It was annoying and it brought a bunch of assholes to the forum. That's it.

$10 buy-in. Print it.

[rookette22]

That's cus it was a freeroll...this one isn't!

Edit: that's what happens with freerolls; this one will be set up almost like the league thread ...it should run a lot smoother than telling everyone it's a Freeroll cus it really isn't a Freeroll!!!

It will be advertised as a $5 BUY-IN tourney! Payable in advance to their forum adminstrator. We will have the list of players prior to tourney. I'll be looking over the list, if I see someone I know on there that I don't trust I might even disallow him/her from joining.

Another thing; if PS allows it maybe we can close the registration to tourney a few hours beforehand. Maybe we could even set a player limit.

I'm really fired up about this, and I really do think it will work. It won't work if none of you are interested in even giving it a shot, though.

[Talking Poker]

In case I haven't mentioned this lately (I'm only approaching page 3 now), I still think this is a very bad idea.

Pros: Will allow people to play that can afford $5 but not $10.

Cons: Far too many to list... but I can easily think of a dozen or so, including this one that SINGLE-HANDEDLY offsets ALL the PROS.... LESS people will play in the tourney if it's set up all goofy like this than will if it's a simply $10 buy in where Poker Stars is trusted with the money. In fact, you can go ahead and put my name at the top of that list.

Hmmmmmmmm.... I wonder why you want to make this a $5 tourney anyway? Why not make it a $1 tourney or a 5 cent tourney? Just think how many more peoplw will be able to afford to play then?!?!?!?

[PShabi]

Great minds think alike.

[kmb13592]

Sounds good, as long as my bankroll isn't too small at the time I'm in. Hope I can help out the forum.

[BrianSwa]

your bankroll? what bankroll?

[rookette22]

Would you also agree to play if it were to be a $10 buy-in instead of $5 ?

[BrianSwa]

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