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Old 02-15-06, 11:08 PM
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Default It seems obvious in retrospect …

But I learned the wisdom of check/calling the river. Before reading the threads on this, if first to act, I would try to punish anyone drawing on the turn, then bet again with, say, two pair on the river. If my opponent missed his gutshot straight or set, he’d fold. If he made his hand, he’d raise me. -EV move for sure. Now I check/call the river with good hands, bet the river on total bluffs or superior hands. Duh, but it helped my game.
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Old 02-16-06, 08:34 AM
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Default how come the easy things are so hard to learn?

I most valuable thing I that I have learned from this forum (so far) is not to be so short term results orientated. I am finally starting to understand that the only way money is made playing poker is from exploiting the bad play of opponents. Everyone gets the same opportunities, and so whoever plays the best poker, maximizing rewards while minimizing risk, will be the most successful. Although it isn’t often stated this way, a lot of the advice on this forum has to do with thinking about things in terms of EV. So I am trying to develop a style of play that focuses on identifying positive EV situations and acting strongly in these cases while avoiding negative EV situations. This forum helps me play poker soundly and not focus on the immediate results as the mathematics demand that sound poker playing be rewarded by long-term results.
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Old 02-16-06, 01:45 PM
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Exactly, the concept of not betting when only better hands can call you is a subtle one, but well worth knowing. Of course, that assumes your opponent is that sensible, but that's another story.
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Old 02-20-06, 12:21 PM
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The most important thing Ive learned from this forum is the importance of having someone to talk to about poker that knows what they're doing. I dont know what I would do with Shabi and TP for limit advice, and JD and Zybomb for NL. There are alot of others, but those are the 4 that stand out to me.
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Old 02-20-06, 12:36 PM
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The first most important thing I learned here was about discipline, and bankroll management. And i basically got all that from TP yelling at me when i had about $25 to my name and was playin Way over my head, and sucked at poker.

The second thing is exactly what Mayhem said. - Being able to talk to other ppl about poker is huge. It keeps me interested in the game and helps out a ton. I feel like I know how to play most hands now, so its not the help I get from actual poker strategy that helps a ton anymore, but without u guys im sure i wouldnt have never gotten PT, have PokeraceHUD, had partymine when it still worked, and alot of other stuff like that - it has all really helped out alot and made it more fun at the same time.
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Old 02-20-06, 01:11 PM
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I'm really enjoying this thread.... I'm glad to see so many people are getting so much out of this forum.

I've said it before, ages ago, but the reason I started this forum may not be what you think. It wasn't so I could get rich through affiliate links (believe me, it's *nothing* like that). It was because looking at a few poker forums, I thought they all sucked. I wanted to create a poker community that was "just right." I wanted there to be only a few different sections to keep up with, but I wanted to make sure there were places for the "annoying" threads (Bad Beat stories, begging for money, spam spam SPAM!), so people wouldn't have to dig through them all if all they really wanted to do was to talk poker.

Bdawg and I had literally traded and discussed thousands of Hand Histories before I started this forum, and I am POSITIVE that helped my game tremendously... not because he was teaching me to play, but because we were both learning from each other. You learn when you just think about how to play a hand, and when you really analyze it (or even read through someone else's analysis), you get better. It just works.

So, I decided to create this forum, with hopes of eventually having a really nice poker community. And I'm happy to say, I think we've got it. At the WSOP last year, I told 2Tone I wanted this site to be about 3 times as big as it was (in terms of regular posters). I don't think we're quite there yet, but this site is three times BETTER than it was, in terms of quality of posts and so on, and that's the most important thing, for sure.

I still think we have room to double in size - maybe even more - but I honestly don't want this place to have 2000 new posts every day like 2+2 (they probably have more like 10k - I have no idea). I like being able to keep up with everything.

Well, I've rambled quite a bit here... so let me add something important. I have learned a LOT from this site too. I'm not really sure what the #1 thing is, honestly, but I've learned a lot in general. I'd say the specific hand analysis i what I've benefited the most from.

Thanks again to everyone for being a part of this community and helping make it what it is today. I think it's about time for me to have another fun promotion.... maybe a money added tourney or league or something. NOT a freeroll. *shudder* Talk about nearly wrecking this place.
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Old 02-20-06, 01:56 PM
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I haven't posted in this thread yet. It's a hard question to answer, because there are so many things. Like TP, I've obviously benefitted most from hand analysis. Also, meeting people whose opinions I value when it comes to poker decisions.

To sum it up, the most important thing I've learned from visiting here is :

How to be a winning poker player!!!!!!!
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Old 02-20-06, 06:01 PM
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I couldnt agree more. I lost so many more bets on the river, than I do now. And, ya, it seems simple now in retrospect, but it is a great edge in limit (against weaker players anyway). This forum has absolutely helped me in that regard.

Also bankroll management for sure.

And really just sorta common sense, non-donk stuff. Dont tilt and move up w/ entire bankroll etc.....

I dont post many hands etc. I should, and will try to do it more. The advise here is about as sound as you can get IMO.
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