Poker Pace

omahilo · #1 03-02-06, 11:49 PM

its not so much pace as it is doing the same thing everytime whether you got a monster or nothing.

like David Williams for example, he has a monster hand, he acts quick... if he has nothing, he acts quick.

As long as you act quick everytime regardless of the situation (unless its a monster decision) it doesnt matter.

there is also times when you want to act fast no matter how you play... like if someone goes allin and you have AA, you want to quickly call this bet because you dont want to look like your slow rolling someone and end up pissing them off.

eejit101 · #2 03-03-06, 12:05 AM

i dont get how you can justify that robbie?

1. thinking 5 seconds every hand....say you have 4 decisions in one pot, your in 25% of pots played. The tables on 120 hands an hour. Thats 30 pots at 20 seconds extra a hand, which is ten minutes. TEN MINUTES an hour of fucking around??? Come on.... stop!!

2. The more pots per hour, the more money u make, period.

3. Ive delayed a bet or an all in or something a few times, for the purposes of the image of my hand. If the flop comes down J 9 5, and i have AK, if im not making a continuation bet, ill delay my check by ten seconds, trying to make the other player think im slow playing him, giving me in effect a free card. Works well for me, but someone will disagree with that.

badblood44 · #3 03-03-06, 03:01 PM

Well, that's not entirely true. If your earn rate is a function of the quality of the decisions you make, and the quality of your decisions is a function of how much time you take, then your statement will not hold up under all conditions.

Nit picky, yes. But for some people, making quick decisions leads to making bad decisions.

Talking Poker · #4 03-03-06, 03:07 PM

I hear what you are saying, but no way does your improved decision making make up for all the 5 seconds you are wasting before folding 92 hand after hand...

PShabi · #5 03-03-06, 04:12 PM

Hey Badblood,

I think a majority of the players who "play fast" will agree with me here. Reread my post above. I said I play "as fast as possible." That means, when I have a decision I can make instantly, I do. It doesn't mean that I rush my decisions. As soon as I know what I'm going to do, I do it. Sometimes that means using the check boxes and playing "instantly." Sometimes that means taking a few seconds or more to do mental calculations or to put someone on a range of hands.

Also, being a multitabler, if I am taking 8 seconds to make a decision on one table I probably will have action waiting for me on another table. So, I'm not playing instantly all the time, or even quickly always.

Robbr25 · #6 03-03-06, 06:12 PM

Thanks for the feedback all.
By some of the points that are listed I can see that using that slow of a pace for EVERY hand can be the wrong thing to do.
I do like pshabi's point of "as fast as possible" and his explanation of not delaying once you make a decision.

Talking Poker · #7 03-03-06, 01:50 AM

That's another good point that hasn't been brough up until now. You raise preflop from UTG with AA. Everyone folds to the BB who pushes in.

If you think for 5 seconds before calling, you deserve a punch in the face when you turn your cards up. I know I'd be pissed.

bdawg31 · #8 03-03-06, 10:05 AM

Exactly. And the reason i suggest a counted pace for this is that i think (no offense to anyone) that the majority of us are better off acting on a consistent slower pace than a consistent fast pace, given our talent and experience level.

And of course there are cases where you wouldn't - like the one given above.