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Old 03-11-06, 07:21 PM
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Me.

I'd almost def. check the turn for alot of reasons:

1) The flat call on the flop is scary
2) We're basically pot committed - lets let him bet/bluff with worse hands and call him down.
3) If we push and he had somethinig like 78 he's probably going to fold.
4) We're either way behind or way ahead most the time - we dont need to push to give him less chance of hitting any "outs"

Notice in all these situations I'd still make the call - but they are all better than pushing IMO - By checking we give him a chance to put in more $ with a worse hand, rather than push and only get called by better hands.

With deeper stacks this would be an easy fold.
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Old 03-11-06, 07:44 PM
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What about the times when the other played passively checks down QQ or JJ and we lose that value?
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Old 03-11-06, 11:59 PM
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that would be so rare it hardly matters- he would have to have that hand - And passively check it down - both very rare.
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This is pretty much exactly what I was thinking as I was reading through this. I'm not laying down AA here (not with these stacks vs. the size of the pot), so the result would have been the same. But I would have check raised him all in on the turn. At least that would have been my intent. I would have pushed if he made any bet and if he checked behind me, I would have value bet the river (probably about half of his stack), and of course called when he pushed in on me there.

Keep in mind though, I struggle with overpairs sometimes... I think it's one of the weaker parts of my game, in fact. So take my advice with a grain of salt here. I seriously don't see how you could get off this hand though. I really think folding this anywhere along the way would be a mistake.
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