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Old 03-22-06, 06:51 AM
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no its not a string bet by the books, BUT some dude likes to do that in the local casino and get a read on his players and the director told him no more
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Old 03-22-06, 08:14 AM
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gonna go with the field here and agree that it's not a string bet. He's announced a raise. My understanding is that, even though it's incredibly annoying, once a raise has been announced the player can go to his stack as many times as he would like. However, as jae mentions, some casinos will put a quick halt to it in the interests of keeping the game moving and not overly annoying the other players.
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Old 03-22-06, 08:41 AM
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yes it is extremely annoying, but if you're playing in any established settlement and you can make it a point that he/she is constantly doing it to their advantage it can be stopped by the director... but yes i do think it is legal, being that he did announce raise initially
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annoying but not a string bet. He aanounced a raise and can stack and twiddle his chips all day if he wants to, because he didnt anounce an amount for his raise than the amount he raises is not determined until he pushes it into the pot. We had a problem with a guy doing this at our home game this week, if its a home game just ask him to stop, if its at a casino the floorperson may put a stop to it for you.
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This is the key. You are assuming he was stacking and twiddling his chips NEXT to his stack (behind his cards). If that was the case, this would be correct, but Zybomb said his hand was in the pot.
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Also not true (same reason).
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I was basing my information on something I read in one of the poker books. It may have been Phil Gordon's Little Green Book but it also may have been HOH vol.1 (I don't have the LGB anymore so I can't double check). It said (paraphrasing here): As long as you declare 'raise' you can go back to your stack as often as you like.

There may also have been the clause you mentioned where you can keep stacking them to the side as you count them out but they all go in together - but I don't remember.

I had to correct a couple people at my home game this past weekend. They were both "I'll see your...and raise you..." Broke them of that.
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I know this (bolded) part is not true.

If I declare "raise" (say of a $50 bet) then put 125 in the pot, I can't go back to my stack for more chips, even though I haven't announced an amount.

The ONLY way I can go back to my stack for more chips is if I said "raise make it 200" , then after bringing out 125 in chips I could get more, since my raise was announced in an amount

Oh yea, the "I see your...and raise you..." is common amoung unknowning players, I personally prefer "I call 250 and raise 50 more" Either that or the 5 minute discussion afterwards on why they can not (or more important wouldn't want to) raise a 250 bet by 50 (but the blinds are 25/50 isnt 50 the min bet???) So the strng bt gets overlooked to compensate for their scary raise
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