Satellite Play Multi-Seat Guarantees

Boobie Lover · #1 03-25-06, 02:23 PM

I have to disagree with the example. It would only be correct if you are in no danger of elimination (guaranteed a seat) and a person with more chips than you goes all-in. There, folding is correct. This example is not.

Talking Poker · #2 03-25-06, 02:34 PM

Why? With 10x the average stack, there is a 0% chance of you being blinded off. Just fold. Calling here costs you 2 BBs if you get sucked out on, and potentially a lot more if either of the blinds comes along and you get involved in a bigger hand.

There is no reason to play.

Edit: What if instead of 2 BBs (extreme example), the short stack had an average stack? 10% of your chips? what if he had 1/4 of your stack? What about half?

He has you covered in none of those examples, and I think they are all clear folds.

Boobie Lover · #3 03-25-06, 02:45 PM

Right from HOH Volume II for sattellite touranments.

"Correct strategy for the leaders is to avoid confrontations with each other and cooperate to eliminate the small stacks."

eejit101 · #4 03-25-06, 02:50 PM

nice on paper.....

Robbie Robb · #5 03-25-06, 02:52 PM

While TP's initial example is a little extreme

, I agree with him - if I can fold my way to a place and am mathematically guaranteed NOT to be blinded out, I put on my fold hat and away I go. The 'sit out' button works wonders for that sort of thing

Even with Aces, I'm not going to risk some donkey catching his one-outer to double up off me, possibly putting me in a situation where I now HAVE to play to make it through.

ps. Like Aeq, I too must spread some love around before hitting TP again

Nikita · #6 03-25-06, 04:41 PM

I'll give TP some of the love (no spreading around for me to do). I liked what he said as well. It's nice to try and eliminate that last person, but I don't want to sacrifice my seat to do it.

bunny · #7 03-25-06, 05:22 PM

I gave him some points for that excellent advice post.

Mathematical win > eliminate small stacks

This ( ^o^) is me, for anyone who doesn't know it, yet.

eejit101 · #8 03-25-06, 05:34 PM

but, all i am saying, s that on my hand, i had the third best hand UTG, the huge stack was sitting out, and the others were all stalling and folding. if i folded i was in the BB for half my stack, with 5 more out to go. If i go in and steal, i am through guaranteed. if i go in and get called by a lower stack, i have enough for the BB if i lose, and if i win im safe. So IMO it was the proper move