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10-21-04, 11:30 PM
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I should have been more clear - He just named the Top 3 finishers in the Borgata tourney he was referring to (he "thought" Williams finished in the Top 5). Not the top three in the world!
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11-09-04, 07:44 PM
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My favorite player is Phil Ivey, he just seems so intense in everyhand. Off topic, but I heard he used to be a professional Video game player, anybody know if it's true and if so what games did he play proffessionaly.
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10-22-04, 08:16 AM
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Marcel Luske - He's an excellent player and very entertaining.
Devilfish - Again one of the best players in the world and always great to watch. |
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10-22-04, 10:39 AM
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Daniel N.
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10-22-04, 02:07 PM
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Did someone mention DevilFish?
I have watched him play at UB, and I must say he raises before every single flop, as Hellmuth says in his book. His stack is always up, down, up, down, up, down. Very loose pre-flop player that attempts to outplay after the flop. I like him too. I like Farha as well, he really comes off as a nice guy on tv. |
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10-22-04, 08:00 PM
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Dave "DevilFish" - is the most famous British poker player around. Not only has he an amazing personality always entertaining the table and making friendly banter but he's one of the best overall players in the world. He's a master at all forms of poker and wins lots of tournys around the globe. The thing is he does not enter most American events becuase of his hetic schedule but he did win a WPT event last year and I think came 60ish in the main WSOP this year.
I dont play on UB myself but woudlnt mind watching him play there just to try and learn from him. I do know he doesn't use his own money on UB and just goes on there to entertain the punters and promote the site. Hard life eh? |
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#14
11-09-04, 03:10 PM
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Daniel N's accomplishments this year certainly make him a candidate for currently being the best. I also think that John Juanda's performance this year is hard to ignore.
For favorite, I enjoy watching and reading Paul Phillips. His live journal is often times very insightful on some key hands he's been in. He'll take you to task for being a moron, but other than that he's usually right on target with his poker discussions. |
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11-10-04, 12:03 AM
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just curious, but how long do you think that we should look at to determine the best current player? with the extreme amount of luck involved in any single tournament, it is pretty easy for a top pro even to hit a long dry spell in tourneys. look at eric seidel and hellmuth. i believe that both of them are winless for the last year at least, yet they are widely regarded as two of the best tournament players out there.
i think that looking bigger picture is probably important here, and looking at much more than one years worth of results. with that siad, i agree with you that negreanu and juanda are two of the best around. |
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11-10-04, 08:42 AM
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Very good question.
Poker today is different than poker was 3 years ago. And of course, the argument of who is the "best" will never be answered. With that said though, I believe the most recent results are the most valid. I know variance and the sheer number of players entering tournaments have contributed to Hellmuth and Seidel being winless this year, as you've mentioned. But so too has the style of play. Those that have been able to adjust their play like the Juandas, Negraneus and Hansons are seemingly having wild success this year. It will be interesting to see if their success holds up over time. |
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#17
11-10-04, 10:23 AM
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Exactly! The game of poker is all about adjusting yourself to the situation. Players who have played for years the same way and come out on top got a rude awakening a few years ago when poker changed, and they were forced to alter (or attempt to alter) their style to suit the new poker world.
Not only tourney to tourney, but hand to hand. Every hand is an entirely different game, and that's how people win tournaments. IMHO |
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11-19-04, 04:51 AM
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Gotta love Barry Greenstein. Anyone who can play successfully in the biggest cash games in the world, and then donate all of your winnings to truly worthwhile charities, is the man in my book. I know this story has gotten some pub., but this is truly amazing what he is doing. I would love to see some sort of movie/show about his life. With the current poker craze, couldnt we hear talk about this, instead of talk of a sitcom about Annie Dukes life?
Also, I envy Dewey Tomko. At some point many years ago he was a top tier player. He was a kindergarten teacher (I taught elementary phys. ed), then he retired to play golf, and win money playing golf while watching his kids grow up, coached all the sports (as I have), then returned to the upper echelon (spelling?) of poker. Ya, not a bad life I'd say. |
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11-21-04, 06:05 PM
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His tourny winnings are very small compared to his cash game winnings. Also at most big tournys he has side bets of upto 1m to last longer then some of his friends. Yes he donates money but he makes such a big thing out of it.
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11-26-04, 05:03 PM
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he doesnt make that big of a deal out of it, whenever ive seen him talk about it hes pretty humble about it... plus, who else does something like that? no other poker player risks that much money to win tournaments, just to give all his winnings to charity. youre pretty critical of him, whens the last time you donated 1st prize money in a 5k buyin tournament to charity?
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#21
11-26-04, 06:56 PM
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He plays the big tournys to win not for money, esp when he plays the highest cash games in the world daily. All i am saying is its nothing to him.
As for when was the last time i donated charity? I bet i donate more time and money % of my income then he ever will. |
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#22
11-30-04, 12:34 AM
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hey
I like alot of players mostly daniel think he is very smart player but CANT STAND PHIL, I would be happy if he just quit poker all together did you see when he tried to talk to Doyle...look at expression on Doyles face like get this moron away from me NOW. He is such a jerk to people then tries to be there friends like with annie during toc was like annie is my friend i love her to death but she is so lucky, make up your freaking mind moron. Annie just outplayed him left and right. All you people hate Annie but she dosent have the kind of money she does from just being lucky I mean she has placed pretty high in all the tornaments she has been involved in. Think alot of people are just afraid because she is a female and could kick all there butts.
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12-02-04, 02:38 AM
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How can you donate more than 100%?? Am I missing something. I actually just watched the replay tonight of when he won the world poker open, and I am more impressed with him than ever. It talked about how he wanted to get custody of his step kids, and it would have been tough given his profession, so he went to school, got a degree, and became a successful computer software programmer. Wow! He sponsors more than 1500 kids around the world. How can anyone say anything negative about him at all? I dont get it. Its the tv networks that pump up this robin hood thing, not him. I agree with the other poster, he is very humble about it. He wins the WPO and donates whatever it was $1.3 mil. and you say its nothing to him. CMON. I know you werent bashing him Taja, but anything sort of nominating him for Pope is a mistake.
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