Am I the only person...

[BlibbityBlabbity]

I agree that a mix of players is ideal. If you have 7-9 fish at the table seeing the flop when you have AK (for example), even if you hit an A or a K there are so many hands out there that two pair/set is LIKELY. So it is hard to bet out, get 4-5 calls and then bet out again on the turn, and have any confidence that you are ahead in the hand. Against mostly solid players you are essentially carving up the fishes chips between you.

As they said in Rounders....
"we weren't really playing together, but we weren't playing against eachother either."

or something like that. The predictability of the solid players leaves the best hand vs the fish (or two) holding second best hands most of the time. This is a good situation IMO. Too many fish tend to leave even the best hands in a vulnerable situation unless you improve.

[Baseballa19]

That's true. It is really cool, though, to get a MONSTER hand at a table full of fish. They pay off nicely.

[BlibbityBlabbity]

Yep, it seems that they are so used to playing bad hands that whenn you raise pre-flop and AAK comes on the flop the just can't comprehend that someone might have AK. These are some of the biggest pots I have seen.


3-4 calling down with j6, q8 hoping to catch runner runner for the straight, or 45 suited drawing dead to a low flush. Funny stuff.

[Gutzz]

I like flop percentage between 37-50, anything more and it... can be a little crazy. But if you're tight, then you'll push the average down a little.

I don't mind tables with flop percentage 30-37, but anything below that is just torture for me.

Cheers,

Gutzz

[drewjax]

Those % sound about right. 50% is great IMO. 80% is just nuts.

[Baseballa19]

80%? WOW! That would be a maniacs table, wouldn't it?? Every table has a couple people who play EVERY hand. I can imagine a larger portion of the table doing it.

[eddo31]

this question really made me think of the last time i was at foxwoods.

at the two different tables that i sat at, there were just completely different styles. at the first, it was the most loose passive table i have ever been at. i was the only person who would consistently raise preflop, and there were usually 8 people in every pot preflop. the next table i was at had one absolute maniac, so most pots were capped preflop. this still left 5 people in, on average, but it was much more difficult to play against this player.

clearly these two tables were profitable, but i had to play them in very different ways. i think that it is almost more important to match up the style of your play with the others at the table, than it is to constantly be trolling for fish. i deally i want a mix of abilities at the table, but i would rather avoid the maniacs and play with the loose passives all day long.