Should he be reported

[Zybomb]

I think personally people are being complete idiots towards this entire situation...they are actually beginning to FEEL BAD for this kid.

How would you like it if it was your account?

Whoever - repped me and said to leave the kid alone he learned his lesson....HOW? He got away with it! Hes giving what he lost back, and that's it. He seems blessed if thats all that happens. He'll learn his lesson by thinking, if i do get caught again I'll just replace the money -- no biggie.

At some point stupidity and immiturity can't cover an explanation -- the stupidity part is simply because he was caught -- and what did he grow up over night and become mature?

Sorry to sound like Im jumpin down his throat, but Im jus tellin things like they are. Sure it's only up to Aeq on legal action (or neteller/stars) and up to TP on banning ... but this poll seemed to be asking for opinions on what they should do, not what jimmyM, or me or you should do...what THEY should do. So I dont understand people jumpin down his throat -- especially Longshot -- what the hell kind of a response was that? Do you really think jimmy was talking about informing the english police on this incident and seeing what happens?

Maybe it'll take your guys accounts being broken into in order for you to make some sense out of this situation -- as I'm laughing at you from the irony, I'll tell you to take it easy, and that he's learned his lesson.

Sorry if Im sounding like a dick here, but Im really just baffled how many people seem to feel bad for this guy

[X-Longshot-X]

Well Said, However....i do not believe that the forum as a whole should have a choice....the thread is pointless it if one person whining because a person who did nothing to him isnt getting banned....thats not the point of the forum......nevertheless.....+rep from me

[studiopet]

This thread isn't about banning him, its a poll to find out should he have been reported to authorities for committing a series of crimes......crimes mind you that do impact this forum as they happened to a member and can happen to another member. Fool me once...shame on you....fool me twice shame on me - lets see if it holds true.

I'm quite suprised at the "resolution". I would have notified authorities immediately once I figured out who it was. Identity theft is quite serious and can be quite painfull to recover from. Being young and dumb is not an excuse.

[thrash1294]

When this is settled I will add A link with a story very similar to this and How the authorities responded you may be suprised

[Talking Poker]

I agree with just about all of this. The one that that I don't agee with is that the banning thing is entirely my decision. A certain Zybomb has banning powers too, you know.

I understand you not wanting to overstep your bounds or whatever, but if you banned him, it would be fine with me. I'm probably going to do it in a couple of days anyway. I'd prefer to let things play out first though - who knows, if he really is reformed, maybe he'll add something valuable to the forum that will help other members avoid getting scammed by similar shitheads.

[jimmym]

Its Funny in a way.

How some members can defend what JohnStewart done and say its ok Lou has sorted it out, Internet Fraud is serious it usually starts with some spotty faced kid playing a so called prank and then envelopes into this same spotty faced twat ripping who he can off.

Lou must have been worried to know that a little bollock could so easily get into his accounts and I suppose his decision not to report this twat could be looked at in many ways one being the response he may get from his fellow workers once found.

I asked a support member from PokerStars to check out the Ive Been Punkd thread as I was concerned that John_Stewart who is a member from there site may be a Fraudster, Pokerstars have agreed that they are concerened about this guy and are going to make further enquires into his account.

I contacted Chris Connally Chief of Police 501 Faraon St. St. Joseph, MO 64501 (816) 271-4700 by e-mail mailto:jlrothganger@ci.st-joseph.mo.us expressing my concern about this guy and allthough I dont have a home address I pointed out that Pokerstars do have his home address .

So there you have it, Yes I was Pissed offwith this and No I didnt need the bobbys over her to go and get him, it took me 20min of my time to bring to the attention these people of possible Fraudster, I dont care what they do if anything, but this guy is scum and I for one say Ban him now remember it could be you next and do you know what to do like Lou did, I doubt many of us could even start.

[melioris]

Here is the deal. If HES had gone after me, I would have pursued legal action with his local police and I would have had him banned from here. He is clearly a punk and I don’t think he deserves our sympathies. In no way am I defending HES, nor have I ever. But HES didn’t target me, nor did he target Jimmy, he went after Aeq. Therefore it is ultimately up to Aeq to decide the best way to handle this issue. And since Aeq is a lawyer, he probably has experience in situations like this and is acting in the most reasonable manner.

In the “I got Jacked” thread, Aeq explicitly states that he is going to handle the situation. Why would you, Jimmy, feel the need to meddle in the life of a stranger (Aeq)? It is completely disrespectful of Aeq for you to get involved. Did you ever consider that you might not have all the pertinent information? Did you ever consider that by getting involved you might be hurting Aeq chances of getting his money back? Did you ever consider that some wouldn’t want a small-town police officer poking around these threads on police business? Or did these types of considerations go out the window when you made an uninformed decision and took unilateral action?

[GTDawg]

Considering I can't go back to his posts to show what I was talking towards...

He sounded like and even had a few posts pointing towards informing the cops of the situation (which he ultimately did). That's what I was focused on more than HES's actions.

I don't give a rat's ass about HES. Ban him. Aeq can turn him in to the cops. Whatever. I think he did something really stupid and he does deserve no sympathy. I know I would've turned him in.

Even if many people agree, is it really a good idea to discuss openly about whether to turn someone in and ban them from a website that they've spent time at?

What I'm getting at is..even if it is a stupid act and people agree on what should happen...it's not really our place to talk openly and take a poll about it..which I saw as simplifying the situation down to "Hey, who thinks we should can this guy". I just didn't see it adding any substance to the forum other than talking about a situation that is an awful reminder that we are all strangers talking on a random website.

I think it also belittles Aeq's decision. I'm sure it was a very difficult decision and I'm sure there are things about this situation that Aeq would like to put in the past and get on with life.

And, to open a poll about his decision seems as sort of a second guess. It seems quite disrespectful to go around him (a lawyer at that) to make a decision on the situation independent of the person affected.

Yes...we know about the situation. Yes...we would all like to help in any way possible. However, you have to remember that you are reading a random person's words on an internet forum. Sometimes people get overly involved in other people's lives and start making decisions while they forget that it's just some random person that they've only talked to on a website.

I wasn't/wouldn't defend HES. But, I think there should be enough respect put in place to let the people involved deal with it and to keep the forum moving forward.

[jimmym]

Perhaps because I use this forum, play on Pokerstars and had my account breached some time ago and because Pokerstars said it was a family friend or member I belived this and blamed an individual who still protests there innocence, perhaps just perhaps it was this stupid knobhead, perhaps I dont really know and I didnt have the way of finding out because I diddnt know then what I know now.

Perhaps just perhaps this knobhead has tried other members accounts and failed without us knowing, and I feel someone should atleast inform some legal authority about this case even if it means its there for future refrence.

Perhaps I dont agree that letting posssible criminal off because he pays you back is not enough. You wont change my mind and I stick by what ive done and to update you the police in StJoseph have passed the details to the FBI ,I dont care what they do but at least this person will have to think twice now if he wants to continue what hes done in the past.

Am not alone in this look at the poll results 2/3 members agree in reporting this guy. well I have.

[melioris]

You live in the same world as George Bush. Everything is black and white, subtleties and nuances don’t exist, and you should never reflect upon your decisions or actions. Good for you.

[Tony Cheval]

I would have serious issues being on a forum with a known fraud perpetrator.

[Tony Cheval]

[holdemstewart]

JimmyM, what do you think SJPD is going to do?

1.You werent involved.
2.Lou has to be the one to press charges.
3.YOU dont have the evidence.
4.Stars wont release the information to YOU.

[SirFWALGMan]

I would have left this to AEQ. Now lets say he gets arrested. Now Aeq will never see his money again.. I mean why send it to him? He already got busted by the cops..

Anyway.. I hope this does not interfere with Aeq's ability to collect..

[Zybomb]

By taking action w/o you I'd feel as if I did -- which is why i wont

[Zybomb]

I've received 3 + reps and one - rep for this (of course w/o signature). But whoever did - rep me on this as I'm laughing at you from the irony, I'll tell you to take it easy, and that he's learned his lesson. that part is for you homie

[jimmym]

LOL- -Rep for me I was even called a retard,