The TalkingPoker.com Forum  

Go Back   The TalkingPoker.com Forum > More things Poker > SPAM
Register Blogs Arcade HH Converter Calendar

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-09-06, 01:05 PM
Spuddy's Avatar
Spuddy Spuddy is offline
Shark
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 687
Spuddy has between 250 and 499 Rep PointsSpuddy has between 250 and 499 Rep PointsSpuddy has between 250 and 499 Rep Points
Default

You honestly never know now a days.....

Somehow there must honestly be a glitch in poker software or it is written in there somewhere.

For example, during pokerstars replays every players whole cards are always shown. This leads me to believe that it might be possible, is it unlikely? Yes, but possible.....
__________________
"I love this freak-ing game"
  #2  
Old 05-09-06, 01:28 PM
Talking Poker's Avatar
Talking Poker Talking Poker is offline
Adminimus Maximus
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florida Coast
Posts: 27,480
Talking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep Points
Default

Ummmm.... no. That's REPLAYING old Hands where all the cards are known.

When you are playing live (at least at any of the legit sites), the data about your opponents' cards is not being sent to your computer - encrypted or not. It's held on the server side. All you are sent is your information. So, barring hacking into the poker site's servers or instaling a web cam in your opponents' houses (GL with that), there is no way for you to access their hole cards.
__________________

Got RakeBack?
27% at Full Tilt | 33% at Cake Poker | 30% at Carbon Poker
  #3  
Old 05-10-06, 11:47 AM
fluxer fluxer is offline
Donkey
 

Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 56
fluxer has between 50 and 99 Rep Points
Default

I wouldn't be surprised if it was technically possible to intercept incoming TCP packets (or whatever they're called) and decrypt them on an untracable (to the poker site) linux box connected to the same hub as the windows box.

You said the other players cards data is contained on the server, but I wouldn't be surprised if that data was being sent to the computer before opponents hole cards are actually revealed. What did you read or hear about that led you to believe that your computer only receives data from the poker sever once opponent cards are required to be revealed?

With that said, I'm 99.9% sure there are no cheating programs right now, and wont be in the near future. If there is such a program, I'm guessing there's probably some engineer geek in Germany (seems right; more obscure than the U.S., lol) that has skin as pale as a ghost who's raking in millions raping people at online poker -- obviously they would never tell anyone else about it (let alone sell it), but would rather make as much money as possible before getting caught.
  #4  
Old 05-10-06, 11:48 AM
fluxer fluxer is offline
Donkey
 

Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 56
fluxer has between 50 and 99 Rep Points
Default

Common sense people.
  #5  
Old 05-10-06, 12:24 PM
Talking Poker's Avatar
Talking Poker Talking Poker is offline
Adminimus Maximus
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florida Coast
Posts: 27,480
Talking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep Points
Default

I don't remember exactly when or where I've read that that's how it works, but I have. And more importantly, think about it from a design/coding point of view. WHY IN THE WORLD would you send that information to everyone at the table? That would open a potentially HUGE security hole. I think it's obvious that this information shouldn't be transmitted until the showdown - similar to how the flop info shouldn't be transmitted until the flop, and how much Opponent A bets on the turn until he's made his turn bet (etc, etc, etc, etc, etc). There is simply no reason to send out this information prematurely, encrypted or not. That would make zero sense.
__________________

Got RakeBack?
27% at Full Tilt | 33% at Cake Poker | 30% at Carbon Poker
  #6  
Old 05-10-06, 04:01 PM
bdawg31 bdawg31 is offline
Shark
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 962
bdawg31 has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsbdawg31 has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsbdawg31 has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsbdawg31 has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsbdawg31 has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsbdawg31 has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsbdawg31 has between 750 and 999 Rep Points
Default conspiracy theory

I think the main reason that TP is denying so strongly that this type of software exists is that he is planning on using it in the TP league and all future TP tournaments and events.
  #7  
Old 05-10-06, 05:36 PM
studiopet's Avatar
studiopet studiopet is offline
Shark
 

Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 836
studiopet has between 100 and 249 Rep Pointsstudiopet has between 100 and 249 Rep Pointsstudiopet has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default

Next time your playing, put ethereal on your pc/laptop (freeware) and sniff the packets coming to your PC. See what you are getting sent to your machine. *shrug*

I may do it tonite just to see......
__________________
  #8  
Old 05-25-06, 08:18 PM
slaughter9 slaughter9 is offline
Fish
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 8
slaughter9 has between -50 and -11 Rep Points
Default

I think it may be possible. But I'd hate playing someone who would be cheating like that if it is possible.
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2004-2008 TalkingPoker.com