I'll never make a good high $$ player because I couldn't do this...

[Reel Deal]

Let me ask you this Penguin... would you make the play at a .01/.02 NL table?

[melioris]

I think the point that Penguinfan is trying to make is that this doesn’t seem like a particularly skillful move and one would expect more from high stakes players.

I think what Penguinfan is overlooking is the metagame aspect of short-handed high buyin NL, particularly when it comes to aggression.


Metagame is my poker vocabulary word of the month.

[Kurn]

In a vacuum, the plays may seem strange, but there may be factors that led to the scenario that we may not be aware of.

IMO, the AQo play is the weaker of the two, unless he has some history that suggests the reraise may be with a weaker hand. Once the all-in bet is made, the AKs hand is getting better than 2:1 to call. He'd need some pretty solid evidence that the push could only mean AA or KK to fold AKs in that situation. Because even if it means as tight a range as (and I doubt its that tight a range) AA-QQ, AK, AQ, his AKs wins half the time getting 2:1.

[Penguinfan]

If my bankroll could only support playing at .01/.02 I honestly have to say no, I look for this fool to pay me off with an over-pair when I flop a set.

If I am wrong then so be it, I'll accept that, but I would think if you are playing within your bankroll limits that you could find a better spot than 50/50 for your money.

Let them gamble or make the mistakes.


I wish I had not posted the outcome of the hand now. Obviously I think the AQ play was flat out horrendous, but I'm not all that fond of calling off my chips with AK either.


Kurn says he was getting 2:1 on his money to call the all-in and will win 50% of the time, I agree with that, but aren't the facts that he still had put in half of the pot, so in reality if he wins half the time he really breaking even.

Now before anyone jumps to the keyboard and tells me that once the chips are in the pot they are no longer yours please understand the I am aware of that, I am also aware that the reality of why we play is to make money and the reality is that there was roughly $9000 in the pot and each player put in $4500 so if you win 50% of the time you break even minus the rake.


If the unknown player pushed right from the go for $4500 are you telling me KrisQueen still should make the auto-call? Now he's getting 1:1 on his money on a 50/50 situation simply because the money went in at different intervals.

[studiopet]

I flat out agree with you here. Recently I've found that AK looks good but cost me more chips than its worth. I think it was referenced as the Anna Kournikova in the WSOP.....looks pretty but seldom wins.

Keep in mind - this is coming from a player who has donked damn near 1/2 his BR in SNG's this past weekend. Take it for what its worth. I'm sure someone will post some PT stats on AK and show that in the long run it is a winning hand though. =)

[Boobie Lover]

Microlimit player's thinking: I have AK. I'm not going broke with AK, it's only a coinflip.

High Stakes Player's thinking: I have been reraising a bunch. This guy is going to 3bet with a heck of a lot worse than AK against me since he is not a complete nit. Extremely easy call for a 30 BBs stack.

[JDMcNugent7]

this is true, this play is very 'everday' and common, i guarentee krisqueen didnt think twice about it after it had happened, even if he did lose.