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![]() I think smaller markets not being able to compete is a myth. Smaller teams beat bigger teams all the time. The big spenders such as the rangers, flyers , blues and leafs.. what have they done over the last 10 years? Look at New Jersey.. 3 cups and 5 finals in the 10 years of the last CBA. They're by no means a big spender. There's no such thing as competitive balance. Every sports has good teams and bad teams. Even in the NFL, Teams are 11-1 and 1-11. I think the players are giving alot back and as you said, the base salaries to work with will be lower (especialy for arbitration). You can't put in automatic fool-proof systems to protect the bonehead owners from themselves. This is like limit poker and no-limit poker ![]() |
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Isn't the salary rollback idea just a temporary solution to a permenant problem? Will be anxious to see the owners counter offer, especially since the NHLPA said there is still some room to negotiate the previous offer.
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What will happen if everything is sorted by the end of the year?
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I think they will have a season no matter how short it is, gotta give people a reason to come back next year.
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It's about time. Enough of these high priced cry babies lying and saying how they're looking out for the future of the game, when in fact all they've done was kill the league. I'm glad they put together a package that was meaningful....maybe we can't watch some real hockey this year.
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The players aren't looking out for the future of the game but they're not crybabies either. It's the owners who are crying about losing money and 'cost-certainty' and locking out the players. The players are now returning $200 million up front.. let's see what the owners think of that.
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I don't think this was ever about the players crying, it's the owners who are not happy and in most cases not making money. The facts are there for all to see, change needs to happen or nobody will make any money soon. Keep in mind the people who work during the games as well, they aer not recieving income right now, and this is a tough time of the year to be out of work. I'm not asking you to shed a tear for anyone here, but right now it would appear that the players greed, or more accuratly the NHLPA's greed is bigger than anything it affects.
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![]() Its a temporary solution yes but it's a huge starting point for the owners to A. save money upfront and B. use these low salaries to set the standard in the future. Are these owners that stupid that they will allow salaries to sprial out of control AGAIN after what's happened over the last 10 years? If so, there's nothing you can do. You can't legislate stupidity. ![]() |
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![]() I guess I was just hoping for a more permenant solution so teams like my Penguins may actually put something on the ice that won't make me want to throw up in the future.
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It could be a very permanant solution if the owners take it (or something similar) and dont fuck it up again. (ie. dont pay $10 million for useless players like Holik, Guerin, Tkachuk and Fedorov)
Pens just need a new arena no matter what the solution is. But have faith. Everything goes in trends which have nothing to do with economics. Watch for the Detroits, Colorados, Phillys and New Jerseys to start falling off (no prospects) and see the younger teams (tampa, calgary, san jose, nashville, atlanta etc..) to start improving. Pens were good in the 80's, great in the 90's and suck now.. they'll improve, they have good young players (Malone, Morozov, Fleury etc..). I'm a Flames fan, they sucked for a good 10 years and are now just starting to come around with a good young team. |
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The arena issue is a very, VERY touchy one here in the Burg. Mario is having a tough time convincing anyone that matters that the Pens need one. Keep in mind these are the same people who funded 2 seperate stadiums for very wealthy owners in town.
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That is the biggest problem with the NHL right now. If it can't survive in a good hockey town like pittsburgh, how can it survive in all the new southern places that it's expanded too. I can't see the NHL surviving in these cities. Bettman really messed it up.
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