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Old 09-29-06, 03:56 PM
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Man losing as a 40/60 underdog is Horrible Luck.
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Old 09-29-06, 04:02 PM
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I didn't even realize opponent had a diamond draw as well, I thought it was strictly on the gutshot.

In THIS case yea Penguin you were a dog on this flop, almost 65/35 dog actually, as he had 18 outs twice
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Old 09-29-06, 04:03 PM
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Come on JD, thats not the point and I think you know it. Twice that player called big bets with nothing, sure after the flop it was better than the nothing I had, but is this a good call on their part?

Every hand doesn't have to go to a showdown. This one clearly should not have, as it was, well........
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Old 09-29-06, 04:13 PM
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Yes Penguin, it was a good call, in fact it is a borderline no brainer call (his PF call was horrible, Im not debating that, Im talking about on the flop)

On the flop after he bets and you push he has to call a bet of 590 into a pot that has 2200 in it. Roughly 3.75:1 on his money. He has a flush draw and a gutshot here, as well as a King

This means that he has 12 outs if you have AA or KK, 15 outs if you have QQ or any lower overpair. or even more if you are on a move with over cards (as u were). The worst case scenario for him is you have a hand such as A Q . He still has 10 outs, but you have a lot of redraw outs and cards that could have him drawing dead on the turn.... . Even against a set he'd only be a 2:1 dog

This range puts him anywhere from a FAVORITE to at worst a 3:1 dog.

Either way with the amount of his stack he's invested, would have remaining and the size of the pot and the pot odds this is a good caller, borderline no brainer
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Old 09-29-06, 06:48 PM
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well then what was the point, b/c that wasnt bad luck.
hell ya he has to call there after the action. u expect him to fold a FD and inside str8 draw there with the possiblilty of live cards too?
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OK, so tell me how I get to be the schmuck playing K3 for 5x raise pre-flop
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you wait till you have a monster and trap them.

basicly you cant get cute and make plays against bad players it just dosent work. Those are the players where you want to have a monster then get cute when you know you are going to stack them.

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I am not trying to pile on Penguin, I'm really not.

But it was THE SOOOOTED KRABLER

its the stone cold stinky nutz
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