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10-22-04, 06:01 PM
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I don't think I have seen a poker commentator that is really great on any of these shows. But, two things in their defense....
1. Even with hole cams, it has got to be nearly impossible to find someting to say to fill a two hour show about poker. I would guess most here find it interesting as players, but the people playing and the cards are the draw for me, not the commentators. 2. How much of the crap they come up with is written for them after the event is played out and set in front of them? Every other sporting event has commentators with a script (or at least detailed notes) of what they hould/must say. Can't beleive they just let these guys wing it. |
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10-23-04, 12:56 AM
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1. I think the poker "play" is the draw for most poker players who watch poker on TV. I don't think it would be hard at all to comment on poker for 2 hours. You're dealing with good players, a hole-card cam, and a load of poker knowledge. Couple that with the green light to be a cynical ass, and it's great TV.
 2. I don't know about that. I don't think they tell them what to say, but I think they do tell them what to focus on.
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10-23-04, 01:51 AM
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i think chad does a pretty good job for the audience that espn is trying to attract. he is fairly amusing, and is even more so for the casual fan. my only problem with him is that he seems to consistently call hands wrong. im not sure how many times i have seen him miss numerous outs on a hand.
if you want better poker commentary, i think that fox does the best job. i mentioned this in another thread, but i thought that the best, most insightful tv tourney was the live turning stone event. lederer did a very good job breaking down what each player was thinking and doing, and he obviously had plenty of time to break down the action in that format. |
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10-23-04, 02:07 PM
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I think it would be interesting to get some of the poker players to join in the number two seat to comment on the events. There are many poker players (similar to the poker corner show) that have the edgy personality to make it MORE fun to watch. Since the commentary is taped long after the events, there is no reason someone who played in the event couldn't comment on it.
Sports usually does this with retired players, coaches. But noone retires in poker really. Anyways what would be more fun to watch than Phil H. commentating his exit from every event. And if Dave Foley can do it drunk off his ass every week, it can't be too hard
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10-23-04, 07:47 PM
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The problem is alot of poker players are dull and make very boring commentators for TV. Just watched a few over in the UK and they were very poor. Least Chad gets people talking. The WPT is so cheesy its funny, i still laff at him calling J5 Motown.
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10-23-04, 09:50 PM
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Phil Hellmuth did a awesome job covering events back when ESPN were at the events live and they werent tape delayed for 2 months. Phil would always join the booth and give his insight. if anyone has seen the WSOP Scotty Nguyen won, Phil Hellmuth calls both players cards and this was without the hole cams, it was pretty remarkable.
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10-26-04, 05:55 AM
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The Ultimate Poker Challenge has a different player on every week to do commentary, and I think they do a great job. Off the top of my head, I can recall them having Robert Williamson, Mike Matusow, CLonie Gowin, Jennifer Harmon, and there are others i cant remember. I thought Williamson did a great job...he certainly isnt dull, as anyone who watched the WSOP will attest to
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11-30-04, 06:26 AM
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You guys defend Norman Chad for just doing what his producers tell him to do; but you get all over Vince. Why do you think they are always saying 'this is amazing poker you are seeing here" and "they'll be talking about this dramatic poker hand for the next 50 years". Of course they are all trying to play to this new generation of poker players. They do tend to overdo it a bit on the WPT, but I could watch them anyday instead of Norman Chad and Lon. Greatest quote from VVP. someone was dealt QQ,"we call this West Holywood, a couple of queens" Classic.
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