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12-14-04, 11:39 PM
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wow yes that sure seems like a dramatic downswing in offensive numbers. those numbers are actually so close it shows what a CONSISTENT player finley is. is he a superstar? no. is he a VERY solid outfielder with good pop, a good glove, some speed, and he's durable.
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12-15-04, 04:00 PM
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I think you're missing the most important trend.
OBP 2002: .370 2003: .363 2004: .333 On base percentage is probably the most important offensive stat and Finley's has been steadily declining, and this year even his BA and SLG% showed signs of dropping off. His decreasing walk rate, which probably has the most predictive value of any of these stats, is also not a promising sign.
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12-15-04, 04:31 PM
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I don't remember ever saying that nothing else is important. And at least read the book before you criticize it, Moneyball was not about OBP being the most and only important stat in baseball, far from it. Moneyball was about finding inefficiencies in the baseball market, or finding skill sets that are widely undervalued by most people, and exploiting these things to maximize the production you get from line up without spending $80+ million.
His defense by UZR is not good, and his patience and ability to get on base have been in decline. I'm not saying this is a terrible signing, just that I don't think it was the smartest idea to commit $20 million to a center fielder whos gonna be 40 or over for the entire deal.
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12-16-04, 03:00 AM
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well when you become GM of a major league organization go ahead and pass on finley while getting in the beltran sweepstakes and see where that gets you. finley was the best CF on the market besides carlos beltran, and his asking price is ridiculous. i do not think he will decline, i think he's been a very consistent player over the years, and every GM/scout asked about the finley signing agreed it was a great signing for the angels.
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12-16-04, 12:39 PM
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Sorry my opinion doesn't agree with what a few interviewed GMs and scouts said, the numbers show that Finley is starting to decline, because of that I don't think that it was the greatest idea to commit that much money over two years to him. I'm reading on espn now that its only $13 million instead of the $20 that was initially reported. If the contract is for only $13 then this is obviously a better signing than I originally thought, but it still carries some risk.
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I think finley is a good sign by the angels. It also looks like Renteria to Boston is a done deal. I think that is a really good pickup for them.
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