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Old 12-15-04, 03:11 PM
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ok moneyball, thanks for spamming me with OBP, because nothing else is important, right? ask any baseball analyst what they think about the finley signing and they all give it two thumbs up.
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Old 12-15-04, 03:23 PM
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So far the Kidd has failed to be wrong on any statement he has made. I think finley is a good sign by the angels. It also looks like Renteria to Boston is a done deal. I think that is a really good pickup for them.
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Old 12-15-04, 03:29 PM
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actually renteria could easily land with the cards -- he is saying money is not a big factor, and he wants to stay in st. louis. as long as st. louis can at least contend with boston's offer, renteria will stay put.
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I don't remember ever saying that nothing else is important. And at least read the book before you criticize it, Moneyball was not about OBP being the most and only important stat in baseball, far from it. Moneyball was about finding inefficiencies in the baseball market, or finding skill sets that are widely undervalued by most people, and exploiting these things to maximize the production you get from line up without spending $80+ million.

His defense by UZR is not good, and his patience and ability to get on base have been in decline. I'm not saying this is a terrible signing, just that I don't think it was the smartest idea to commit $20 million to a center fielder whos gonna be 40 or over for the entire deal.
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well when you become GM of a major league organization go ahead and pass on finley while getting in the beltran sweepstakes and see where that gets you. finley was the best CF on the market besides carlos beltran, and his asking price is ridiculous. i do not think he will decline, i think he's been a very consistent player over the years, and every GM/scout asked about the finley signing agreed it was a great signing for the angels.
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Sorry my opinion doesn't agree with what a few interviewed GMs and scouts said, the numbers show that Finley is starting to decline, because of that I don't think that it was the greatest idea to commit that much money over two years to him. I'm reading on espn now that its only $13 million instead of the $20 that was initially reported. If the contract is for only $13 then this is obviously a better signing than I originally thought, but it still carries some risk.
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13 million for 2 years of steve finley carries risk? now you're just scraping for reasons to still be "right."
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Why does me defending my opinion turn into me "scraping for reasons to still be right"? He's a center fielder who's over 40, his patience at the plate and on base skills have been declining, and UZR does not have him as a good defensive center fielder, thats why I think this is a somewhat risky signing. I don't care if I'm considered "right" by anyone, I'm just supporting my opinion. Sorry if you have a problem with that.
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