Lower buy-in NL ring game players

[Talking Poker]

This is very interesting. I was shocked reading your first paragraph until I remembered that you were talking about full ring. I'm wondering how your strategy would work at higher levels. Maybe you should find out for us someday (hint hint).

Regarding your 6 max play, your PT numbers look very reasonable to me. You play a bit tighter than I do, but I think that is not only fine, but probably preferable at the levels you are playing. How does your play compare to what I've shown in my videos so far? The reason I am asking is because I intend to make some lower limit videos at some point. I assume my style will still produce winning results, but I think it may need to be tweaked a bit for optimal results. What I suspect is that things like firing that big bluff on the turn will become less profitable (I won't be able to get my opponents to fold as easily), and "fancy" plays (squeeze plays, for example) won't be as effective. So to adjust fot that, I think I'd need to tone down the aggression a bit and play just a little bit tighter... and doing that, I'd expect my PT numbers to look pretty similar to yours.

[melioris]

PF-sorry for the threadjack, I’ll just answer TP and then back on topic-

Thanks for the vote of confidence TP (at least that is how I read it )Last month my wife said something to the effect of “having poker pay for sitter and a nice dinner is good and all, but why not try to move up and make some real money”. I was psyched and promptly had my first losing month. This month is better and it is a good feeling to invest all my winning back into myself. It is slow going because I am a bankroll conservative, but hopefully I’ll get there soon. My goal is $100NL 6-max exclusively by January 1.

edit to add-TP at the micro levels, just about the only non-CB bluff I make is, with position, if a CB gets called, the turn checks through, and then the river comes a third suit or completes an obvious straight draw. The villian, who acts first, will often fire on the river since I checked behind on the turn, and I sometimes raise it up (1/2-3/4 pot) if I think the villian is any good and will lay down. Below every player's name I have PAHUD display %foldturn/%foldriver and only make this play against players that the numbers suggest can lay it down. Other than that, I fire a second barrel on the turn maybe 20% or so (I try to do it roughly the same % as the turn actually improving my hand) and this has moderate success.

[Talking Poker]

I like that you follow conservative bankroll guidelines and I'm confident you will be playing $100 NL by 1/1 if you stick to it and get a lot of hands in...

Good idea using the %foldturn and %foldriver numbers. I may need to add those to my display.

[Reel Deal]

melioris, where are you playing? Tilt?

Anyway, when you get to $100 NL get ready for more aggressive players, you'll see a lot more of people coming over the top of your PFRs and calling or coming over the top of your CBs. Definitely takes some getting used to. I had a bad run at $100 NL (bad beats mixed in w/some poor decisions) and played a little $50 NL and found I could run over that game with lots of PFRs in position and CBs, seemed like no one wanted to ever fold their blind preflop and then would fold to nearly every CB... that doesn't happen as much at $100 NL.

[Penguinfan]

Good stuff all, thanks.

Melioris, thanks for putting the time in to that post.

I guess I just wanted confiramtion that at low levels it is more about letting people donk off thier stack to you than any kind of fancy play.

My results for November have been better than any month I have ever had for cash games (keep that in perspective) because I have went back to a more "Nut-Peddling" style, and I really believe because of better pre-flop decisions. The only place I would disagree is with the continuation bet part, I have been finding more success with that than you guys it would seem, maybe just a coincidence though.